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Posted September 15, 2012
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Red_Avatar: No. Wacom devides don't respond to touch like those other devices - the pens are actually technical marvels where the device can detect when you're using it - I haven't used a Graphire tablet, but with my Intuos4, it detects tilt, pressure, all the buttons, when you turn it around, etc. and it's amazing considering the pen has no power source.
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Miaghstir: Bamboo - and Graphire before it, I'm quite sure - only detects pressure, not tilt. Also, only the earliest Bamboo's did not have touch. I got mine just as they were introducing it and is called "Bamboo pen & touch", when using the pen it acts as the usual drawing board with absolute placement, and when using the finger it acts as a large touchpad with relative movement (and no pressure sensitivity). If the pen is close enough it doesn't respond at all to the finger.
Yeah I know the Graphire and Bamboo are heavily simplified versions and lack many advanced features but their pens use the same technology with magnetic fields. That is how it can detect a device too - it's ingenious and very clever but also why the pens cost this much money.
Posted September 15, 2012
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hedwards: Or you can draw with a regular pen on a piece of paper and just trace that using the tablet. I'm going to be doing something similar when I get back home to the US for my comic. I've tried in the past to use my tablet, but I never quite get to the point where it feels natural.

I'm sure with a shed load of practice that I could get used to it, but I've always done my drawing on paper.

Also, I think it's important not to switch monitors if at all possible as you then have to spend some time relearning where various points on the tablet are.
All sound advice for those starting out. It does take quite a long time to get used to drawing things from scratch with a tablet so I'd say it's pretty much vital to have a scanner handy if you need to get some drawing done.

That said, I still don't know what sloganvirst actually intends to do with the tablet.
Posted September 15, 2012
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hedwards: Or you can draw with a regular pen on a piece of paper and just trace that using the tablet. I'm going to be doing something similar when I get back home to the US for my comic. I've tried in the past to use my tablet, but I never quite get to the point where it feels natural.

I'm sure with a shed load of practice that I could get used to it, but I've always done my drawing on paper.

Also, I think it's important not to switch monitors if at all possible as you then have to spend some time relearning where various points on the tablet are.
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Navagon: All sound advice for those starting out. It does take quite a long time to get used to drawing things from scratch with a tablet so I'd say it's pretty much vital to have a scanner handy if you need to get some drawing done.

That said, I still don't know what sloganvirst actually intends to do with the tablet.
Honestly, I think my problem is the same basic problem I had when I was learning how to touch type. I really needed to look down towards my fingers even though I knew where the keys were. Which doesn't work at all with a tablet that doesn't have an integrated monitor.

I must admit that I am also curious what the OP is going to do with the tablet. If it's for vector stuff, that should be fairly easy to do. I remember when I was messing around with AutoCAD that most folks don't even bother to use a stylus anymore because the keyboard is the most efficient way of entering the precise coordinates necessary.

When I get back, I'll probably spend a lot of time basically tracing things on the monitor until I get used to it. With enough practice I should be able to develop the necessary hand eye coordination.
Posted September 15, 2012
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Red_Avatar: Yeah I know the Graphire and Bamboo are heavily simplified versions and lack many advanced features but their pens use the same technology with magnetic fields. That is how it can detect a device too - it's ingenious and very clever but also why the pens cost this much money.
I did not intend to disagree with that, just to note that the Bamboo (whether due to the the pen or tablet, I don't know) lacks the tilt sensitivity, and also only has one type of pen, unlike the Intuos which also has a marker-type and airbrush among others. Correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I believe the tablets know which brand of pen (Intuos/Bamboo) is near and refuses to work with the wrong one.

Mine works well enough with the dual monitor, except that as I said, the tablet is wide. If I don't want the drawing aspect ratio to get distorted (not that it matters too much with how "well" I draw anyway), one screen gets about 80% of the tablet, and the rest gets to the other screen.
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