orcishgamer: Just a nitpick, there's a lot of valid criticism of some feminist views and some methods used to achieve certain goals that don't simply boil down to "insensitive asshole/misogynist".
For example, some older feminists have rightly pointed out that the men saying, "Hey, you got X, that's great! We'd like X too!" when it's a basic thing like human dignity and value placed on life for the sake of life is pretty reasonable, for a lot of reasons (many understandable, but nonetheless wrong) these will frequently be ignored.
I.E. We who have a penis need a way to have a dialog about this without the immediate knee jerk response being "OMFG MISOGYNIST!!!!" And that is a fair request.
However, as I've already pointed out, not that I expected much different from the internet, but the abusive behavior was revolting bullshit.
I agree. The problem is that you have jack asses and bitches on both sides who really ruin it for everyone. On the one side you have the actual misogynists who simply don't accept women getting more "freedom" but on the other side you have the hypocritical women who demand MORE rights than men and refuse to give up the preferential treatments women have been getting in other areas.
I've actually had quite a few arguments about that in the past where they seem to take the advantages of being female for granted. To give a few examples:
- choice of birth. The woman gets the final say over ANYTHING involving child birth be it aborting, adoption, etc. and yet the father remains financially responsible to support her decision.
- custody: women regardless of their competence nearly always get custody. You can be a good father with a good job and stable home and you'll still lose your kids to your drunk unemployed ex-wife. It's disgusting, it's sexist and utterly inexcusable. This HAS to change.
- preferential treatment in many office jobs because bosses are often males who like female staff. Females get hired with less experience and less abilities over men who are more capable - I've seen this again and again and again. It took me two years to get hired despite me being top of my class by far - all girls in my class got a job after just a month or two regardless of their abilities.
- general advantages that come from men wanting to help women: replacing tires, giving a lift, helping them move, fixing stuff for free, etc. etc. For tough customers, I always ask my female coworker to make the calls because of this reason.
etc.
Basically, don't just look at all the negatives - there's plenty of positives there as well which rarely seem to get mentioned! Yes, there's tons of negatives as well (there's tons of negatives for being male as well, to be honest) but those get mentioned often enough. If you're a father in a divorce, you'll discover all too quickly how unfair the world is when it comes to your kids and then you won't give a damn about all the other advantages you're supposed to have as a man - you'd trade them all in a heartbeat.
