I think this looks rather interesting, but I'll never get it because it has a subscription fee. I am curious, though, as to what the fee is. Steam doesn't say; it just says something like "requires a monthly subscription."

The game site itself doesn't tell you what the sub fee is, but when you click on "buy now" they certainly let you know that you can spend up to $200 extra to get a bunch of goodies. Whoo!

So I'm just wondering if anyone out there actually knows what the sub fee is. I just want to know since it seems impossible to find out. It's just an itch.

I think the usual price is 10-15$ if you pay on monthly basis but they give a cut off if you buy 6 month or 12 months in advance.

I don't think it's long now until this goes F2P like most other MMOs except WoW so you could always wait a few months if you only wanted to try it. I tried it during the last beta, just wanted to see if it was going to be any different than other MMOs. Turns out it's basically the same but I didn't expect much anyway.

Yeah, I can't imagine these days that it will last very long. I just find it odd that they're trying to sell you something and not even tell you what the fee is.

According to this, the base price is $15 per month, and you get an unspecified discount if you buy a long-term sub.

But I played it over the free weekend, and it's a huge disappointment, I must say. Even if it goes F2P, I don't think I'm coming back, and the current model really is incredibly overpriced.

Many thanks. Sounds pretty disappointing overall.

It's written and directed by Ragnar Tornquist, which is... good? I mean, I like him, but I wish he'd get back to making The Longest Journey 2 or Dreamfall Chapters or whatever.

Anyway, I want to play this game because it looks pretty cool, but I don't like subscription fees and putting a boxed price and item shop on top of that is just stupid. Here's hoping it goes free soon. :D

And the writing is by far the best thing about it (at least in the 5 or 6 hours I spent on it). But I genuinely do not understand why did it have to be an MMO. Because everything that's MMO-ish about it is absolute crap. Particularly the pedestrian combat, of which there is far, far too much.

Hm, that's a shame. Lines up with what I've read, though. How's the character development system? It seemed interesting since it's classless and has a million billion skills.

I wouldn't know, really. The ability wheel is downright intimidating the first time you look at it, and I unlocked only a teeny-tiny part of it. That's the one thing that reportedly improves the fighting a lot, but the time investment until you get there seems pretty huge.

Basically, there are no levels, but there's a progress bar showing when you get your next point that you can use to unlock another node in the skill tree, and the core gimmick is that there are no choices that would prevent you from investing into other parts of the same big-ass tree as well. So you can, in theory, eventually master absolutely everything. It's just that you are likely to die of boredom before you get there.

This game looks super interesting, it's a shame it's an MMO (and a subscription on top of $50 one at that).

I'll play it when it changes financial models.