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GameRager: Yeah like 4chan's template styles.....a button like to switch from one site to another seamlessly(changing the site's background and/or background colors and such when one hits the button).
That's a good idea too.
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GameRager: Yeah like 4chan's template styles.....a button like to switch from one site to another seamlessly(changing the site's background and/or background colors and such when one hits the button).
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Sargon: That's a good idea too.
Maybe use retro(yet fair use) images and such like 8bit images and such for the background of the old games template and newer images for the background of the new games template(like two worlds pics/etc).....
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Sargon: I think the perfect solution to this is for GOG to make another storefront for their operation with a new name. Good New Games isn't very good and Good Recent Games is rather bad so another name should be chosen.

The most difficult part would be to decide how integrated these two different websites (which both are owned by GOG) should be to each other. The whole catalog of games should be search-able from both Good Old Games and "Good New Games". Perhaps there should be a very visible button on both which switches on or off some of the content from the other one. This could be searches, game browsing, individual game forums, gogmixes\gngmixes? Just one button that if it was here would say "Allow content from Good New Games"

But should it default to on or to off?
If they did all that work to integrate the sites, what would be the difference in practical terms from just running one site?

Aside from that, I see a few potential issues.

For starters, good new games will eventually become old. If people are complaining now that games on GOG are too new, they will complain on GNG that the games are too old. How new does a game have to be to qualify for GNG? Would GNG release brand-new titles alongside Steam and Gamersgate, or just not-brand-new-but-not-really-old titles, like Mass Effect? Is DRM allowed? If not, how many titles is a site focused on new games really going to be able to get? If so, won't people complain that GNG is just another distro service in a crowded market, which is what seems to be at the heart of the new-games complaints in the first place?

Would GNG use higher price points since the games are newer? If so, when the price eventually drops to $10 due to the title's age, does it get moved to GOG or does it stay on GNG? If it's supposed to move, wouldn't that cause customer confusion, not to mention extra work for the company in moving and rebranding the game? If it stays, then if GOG and GNG both sell years-old titles for $10, then, again, what would really be the difference? What if the publisher wants to drop the price, but doesn't want to remove the DRM?

I don't mean to smother you with text, I just think micromanaging releases that way would get messy pretty quickly.
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Mentalepsy: If they did all that work to integrate the sites, what would be the difference in practical terms from just running one site?
Not that much, the less the better actually. But one big one is that it GOG could sell new games without many people getting upset about it. Larger selection of games should most likely mean more revenue which could make GOG bigger which I think is good for all of us. Selling new games is different than old so another team should be hired for that. There would be some risk with this but I think they most likely would succeed.



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Mentalepsy: Is DRM allowed?
DRM would not be allowed. I think Cd Project have taken it upon themselves to be champions of "the cause" which makes this next step a very logical one.
I may be ignorant, but I don't know of any other game download store that exclusively sells DRM free games, so I think there is an important niche unclaimed for DRM free new games.


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Mentalepsy: If not, how many titles is a site focused on new games really going to be able to get?
Less than those that allow DRM of course but I don't think it is any problem since "GNG" wouldn't be only child but instead the younger sibling.


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Mentalepsy: If so, won't people complain that GNG is just another distro service in a crowded market, which is what seems to be at the heart of the new-games complaints in the first place?
GNG should stand out because there would be no need to worry about DRM and because of the quality of that GOG is know for already. Providing quality performance and support for newer games would however be a challenge. New games are still in the making, constantly being updated with patches so we could not expect the same kind of quality from new games that we get from the old. Still another reason to make two different stores if they would start to release brand new games :)


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Mentalepsy: Would GNG use higher price points since the games are newer?
An interesting question. If they kept the same prices here and allowed a higher price point for newer games they would get more games, but it could make it harder to get some of the older games for a lower price. If they decide to add higher price points to GOG like they have said they are considering it would be less of an issue.




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Mentalepsy: If so, when the price eventually drops to $10 due to the title's age, does it get moved to GOG or does it stay on GNG?
I think the games should be moved when GOG thinks they are ready for it. Perhaps dropping the price. Then when on GOG they could get a makeover with updates for recent operating systems if needed and more extras. Another way to go about it would be to automatically move the games after a certain time.


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Mentalepsy: If it's supposed to move, wouldn't that cause customer confusion, not to mention extra work for the company in moving and rebranding the game?
Some extra work surely, but there would be more people to do it. There shouldn't be much customer confusion. When games are moved they will be announced, even if you don't see the game you are interested in announced for moving you will probably see it for some other game and connect the dots. All the games you have bought on any of the two sites would be available on any of them, even if you don't allow content from the other site. The concepts of good old games and good new games should be easy to understand. An ever present button to allow\disallow content from the other site would also minimize confusion.



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Mentalepsy: I don't mean to smother you with text, I just think micromanaging releases that way would get messy pretty quickly.
I imagine it as not messy at all and easy to understand. There should go two - five years before a game is moved. If the two storefronts works in almost the same way there would be lesser work needed to move the games.

It will cost more, but i think the gains would outweigh the costs by a lot.