Posted July 22, 2012
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Thank you for your answers in advance. I appreciate
you taking a look.
This is concerning the game "Air Conflicts Secret Wars" downloaded from Steam. I am running Windows 7 64 bit and using a Saitek ST290 joystick.
After programming the joystick, everything seems to respond except for the throttle lever, and none of the keys indicated in the game will increase or decrease the throttle either, unless I switch over to
control by mouse....a nightmare I would never willingly play.
There just doesn't seem to be any way to get the game menu to "Take" the command to
accept "Lever all the way pushed up" for an "Accelerate" input. I can, for example, push almost any random key on the keyboard, and it WILL accept that input as the Accelerate input. Additionally, almost all of the buttons on the joystick can be set to run the throttle, but that's no good.....this Economy Model joystick has only six buttons, plus a high hat, and I need all the buttons for other functions. (Oh yeah, and nothing is accepting input from the High Hat button)
Additionally, the stick is way too sensitive. The tiniest movement makes the plane bob around like a leaf in a strong breeze. No matter where I set sensitivity, this is the result. It isn't just sensitive, either, it's......WEIRD.
I've experienced this weirdness many times in many other games, usually First Person Shooters, and usually quite old games.....the response is
extremely imprecise. It goes fast for a split second, then slows down
for two seconds, then rushes to catch up. No, that's a poor description.
That sounds like normal Lag, and this isn't quite lag.
For example, if you fire the machine guns, the tracers cut a nice crisp continuous line with no stuttering. But if you move the joystick, the plane itself will sort of hurry, go sloooowww, hurry, hurry...slow, slow, slow.....hurry again.......all microseconds, but MADDENING.
I tested the joystick just now with another older arcade flight game (Secret Weapons Over Normandy, loaded from a CD, not Steam) and performance and response are flawless, including the joystick throttle.
I can't get into the Steam forums to save my life. Steam is insanely security conscious, and it's a HUGE pain. I have a very hard time remembering passwords, and there is a seperate password for my
purchase account and for the forums. I gave up trying to get into the forums again after about the seventh try.. Otherwise, I'd be asking there.
I did of course write to Steam, and they will of course give the usual answer:
Once again we have raped and ripped you off. We knew that this game is broken.
We knew that the publisher either provides no support or is out of business, but we will
still just refer you to them.
We provide no support for our games, we just sell junk that we KNOW won't run, then it's totally your problem, SUCKER!
**** OK, stupid error. You have to push the throttle lever HARD, snap it up or down, and it will enable as "Z", whatever that means, and will now control the plane throttle in game.
Sadly, this is a tough one, and the plane still bobs around so violently with the smallest twitch that the game is pretty much un playable.
I'll uninstall and reinstall and work through the settings again to see if that helps.
But even in mouse mode, it's hard to control the plane, it just overshoots whereever you point it.
you taking a look.
This is concerning the game "Air Conflicts Secret Wars" downloaded from Steam. I am running Windows 7 64 bit and using a Saitek ST290 joystick.
After programming the joystick, everything seems to respond except for the throttle lever, and none of the keys indicated in the game will increase or decrease the throttle either, unless I switch over to
control by mouse....a nightmare I would never willingly play.
There just doesn't seem to be any way to get the game menu to "Take" the command to
accept "Lever all the way pushed up" for an "Accelerate" input. I can, for example, push almost any random key on the keyboard, and it WILL accept that input as the Accelerate input. Additionally, almost all of the buttons on the joystick can be set to run the throttle, but that's no good.....this Economy Model joystick has only six buttons, plus a high hat, and I need all the buttons for other functions. (Oh yeah, and nothing is accepting input from the High Hat button)
Additionally, the stick is way too sensitive. The tiniest movement makes the plane bob around like a leaf in a strong breeze. No matter where I set sensitivity, this is the result. It isn't just sensitive, either, it's......WEIRD.
I've experienced this weirdness many times in many other games, usually First Person Shooters, and usually quite old games.....the response is
extremely imprecise. It goes fast for a split second, then slows down
for two seconds, then rushes to catch up. No, that's a poor description.
That sounds like normal Lag, and this isn't quite lag.
For example, if you fire the machine guns, the tracers cut a nice crisp continuous line with no stuttering. But if you move the joystick, the plane itself will sort of hurry, go sloooowww, hurry, hurry...slow, slow, slow.....hurry again.......all microseconds, but MADDENING.
I tested the joystick just now with another older arcade flight game (Secret Weapons Over Normandy, loaded from a CD, not Steam) and performance and response are flawless, including the joystick throttle.
I can't get into the Steam forums to save my life. Steam is insanely security conscious, and it's a HUGE pain. I have a very hard time remembering passwords, and there is a seperate password for my
purchase account and for the forums. I gave up trying to get into the forums again after about the seventh try.. Otherwise, I'd be asking there.
I did of course write to Steam, and they will of course give the usual answer:
Once again we have raped and ripped you off. We knew that this game is broken.
We knew that the publisher either provides no support or is out of business, but we will
still just refer you to them.
We provide no support for our games, we just sell junk that we KNOW won't run, then it's totally your problem, SUCKER!
**** OK, stupid error. You have to push the throttle lever HARD, snap it up or down, and it will enable as "Z", whatever that means, and will now control the plane throttle in game.
Sadly, this is a tough one, and the plane still bobs around so violently with the smallest twitch that the game is pretty much un playable.
I'll uninstall and reinstall and work through the settings again to see if that helps.
But even in mouse mode, it's hard to control the plane, it just overshoots whereever you point it.
Post edited July 22, 2012 by bearcat22
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