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Posted July 30, 2014
In the last time, pretty many new games slipped away from GOGs control and were released with a delay.
I´m talking of stuff like several Deadalic-Games and a few kickstarter games like DivinityOriginalSin and TheBannerSaga.

You could avoid this by placing more preorders---> the D:OS-Disastre (more or less) wouldn´t have happend with preorders of the game sold before! And BannerSaga...
...well, it would have arrived earlier :D

To take a look ahead, you should definitivly try (if you aren´t already doing so) to get a preorder for Wasteland II ready within the next week, so its release here won´t be delayed.
And the same could be done with Planetary Annihilation once GOG Galaxy is online and PA got a release date...
...and of course many other games in the near future could be dealed with the same way!
But, of course, stay stick to your principles and ONLY offer discounts and NO EXCLUSIVE MATERIAL during preorders!

That said, I´m just hoping for votes...
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/secure_more_preorders
Posted July 30, 2014
You have your second vote!
Personally, I am completely against the very concept of pre-order (until now, the only exception for me has been The Wicther 3), but I'm also sure that this kind of initiative could only improve GOG's stand on the market.
Judging by the stats, it is pretty obvious that pre-orders are a big source of incomes, so it would be wise to exploit them whenever possible.
Post edited July 30, 2014 by Enebias
Posted July 30, 2014
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RadonGOG: In the last time, pretty many new games slipped away from GOGs control and were released with a delay.
I´m talking of stuff like several Deadalic-Games and a few kickstarter games like DivinityOriginalSin and TheBannerSaga.

You could avoid this by placing more preorders---> the D:OS-Disastre (more or less) wouldn´t have happend with preorders of the game sold before! And BannerSaga...
...well, it would have arrived earlier :D

To take a look ahead, you should definitivly try (if you aren´t already doing so) to get a preorder for Wasteland II ready within the next week, so its release here won´t be delayed.
And the same could be done with Planetary Annihilation once GOG Galaxy is online and PA got a release date...
...and of course many other games in the near future could be dealed with the same way!
But, of course, stay stick to your principles and ONLY offer discounts and NO EXCLUSIVE MATERIAL during preorders!

That said, I´m just hoping for votes...
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/secure_more_preorders
We do try and do just as you said but there are quite a few factors beyond our control when it comes to these kind of things :) I wish I could discuss this in greater detail but just know that we do hear you on this issue :)
Posted July 30, 2014
People might secure more pre-orders if pre-orders were more secure. ;-p

This has nothing to do with GOG, but given the current state of the market and new releases, I can't really recommend buying a pig in a poke. It's much better to wait a bit and see what the game actually delivers, even if it's just for a few days. The only reason to buy pre-orders is exclusive content, and even that usually becomes available to everyone eventually (and it's also a questionable practice in the first place).

However, GOG might want to rethink their policy of only rarely announcing upcoming releases. I bought a few games elsewhere that I might hasve bought on GOG as well, but GOG's release was a bit delayed and I didn't know it was coming.
Posted July 30, 2014
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RadonGOG: (...)
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JudasIscariot: We do try and do just as you said but there are quite a few factors beyond our control when it comes to these kind of things :) I wish I could discuss this in greater detail but just know that we do hear you on this issue :)
I already thought so...
...anyways, just a general question:
If Kickstarter Projects already promised to bring their games on GOG.com, shouldn´t it be possible to get their preorders instantly on here, espacially if other sites are already offering beta access or so?
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Psyringe: People might secure more pre-orders if pre-orders were more secure. ;-p

This has nothing to do with GOG, but given the current state of the market and new releases, I can't really recommend buying a pig in a poke. It's much better to wait a bit and see what the game actually delivers, even if it's just for a few days. The only reason to buy pre-orders is exclusive content, and even that usually becomes available to everyone eventually (and it's also a questionable practice in the first place).

However, GOG might want to rethink their policy of only rarely announcing upcoming releases. I bought a few games elsewhere that I might hasve bought on GOG as well, but GOG's release was a bit delayed and I didn't know it was coming.
Well, I still think that big discounts are the best things for preorders!
Look at how Witcher III is doing right now...
...and it doesn´t have exclusive shi... sorry, I of course wanted to say stuff :D
Post edited July 30, 2014 by RadonGOG
Posted July 30, 2014
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JudasIscariot: We do try and do just as you said but there are quite a few factors beyond our control when it comes to these kind of things :) I wish I could discuss this in greater detail but just know that we do hear you on this issue :)
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RadonGOG: I already thought so...
...anyways, just a general question:
If Kickstarter Projects already promised to bring their games on GOG.com, shouldn´t it be possible to get their preorders instantly on here, espacially if other sites are already offering beta access or so?
All I know is that there a ton of things to take care of behind the scenes and it takes a while to iron everything out.
Posted July 30, 2014
Even if you can't put the games on pre-order, surely you could at least show the gamecard with a 'coming soon' tag.
Posted July 30, 2014
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rodrolliv: Even if you can't put the games on pre-order, surely you could at least show the gamecard with a 'coming soon' tag.
We do that whenever we can, granted, it's not always but we at least try :)
Posted July 30, 2014
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Psyringe: People might secure more pre-orders if pre-orders were more secure. ;-p
High philosophy on the GoG forums, haha. I'm pondering your assessment intently.
Posted July 30, 2014
Frankly I'd be happy with just more Coming Soon announcements, with or without pre-order options. It seems like I only ever find out about what is coming to GOG via the forums, excepting a few high-profile titles. Other vendors have no problem announcing what is in the pipeline, so I've never understood why GOG has to keep things a secret.

Sorry to beat this dead horse, but I really don't get it.
Posted July 30, 2014
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IAmSinistar: Frankly I'd be happy with just more Coming Soon announcements, with or without pre-order options. It seems like I only ever find out about what is coming to GOG via the forums, excepting a few high-profile titles. Other vendors have no problem announcing what is in the pipeline, so I've never understood why GOG has to keep things a secret.

Sorry to beat this dead horse, but I really don't get it.
I think it's a remnant from the times when GOG was only selling old games. Back then, they didn't have to worry about competitors selling the same products. Hence it was beneficial for them to keep every release a surprise - this triggered more impulse buys, and maximized the effect of the advertising that accompanied each release. It also allowed for flexibility in the release schedule, and left room for thorough testing of each product.

The thing is, I don't think that this approach works any more when you have a dozen competitors that sell the same products and announce those weeks in advance, while your own community has the choice of either _hoping_ that you'll release the game too, or order it from somewhere else and stop worrying about it.
Post edited July 30, 2014 by Psyringe
Posted July 30, 2014
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Psyringe: I think it's a remnant from the times when GOG was only selling old games. Back then, they didn't have to worry about competitors selling the same products. Hence it was beneficial for them to keep every release a surprise - this triggered more impulse buys, and maximized the effect of the advertising that accompanied each release. It also allowed for flexibility in the release schedule, and left room for thorough testing of each product.

The thing is, I don't think that this approach works any more when you have a dozen competitors that sell the same products and announce those weeks in advance, while your own community has the choice of either _hoping_ that you'll release the game too, or order it from somewhere else and stop worrying about it.
You make a good point about how it likely became ingrained into the GOG corporate persona. And I concur with the latter statement. There seem to always be a number of posts following a game release wherein someone says "Wish I knew this was coming to GOG before I bought it from X".

Clearly the publishers aren't shy about letting folks know their games are coming to GOG, as that is what fuels a lot of the pre-release info here on the forum. If only GOG would take that openness to heart themselves.
Posted July 30, 2014
I can't imagine what keep GOG "inner kitchen" hides release dates for modern titles especially "big ones" as publishers and developers announce a release date a way ahead and don't make a big secret for it.
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