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Posted November 26, 2010
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Darling_Jimmy: Many people lack the enzymes to produce very long chain fatty acids on their own and must get them from other animals instead. That means either meat, milk or eggs are vital to their health.

I agree, however, that industrialized food is a scary thing and should be decentralized. I am lucky enough to live in an agriculturally rich region.
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broether-eros: Just as a matter of information, to those who might be otherwise unsure, there are plentiful sources for those acids in both vegetarian and vegan diets.

Here are some official links.

http://www.ajcn.org/content/78/3/640S.full - American Journal of Clinical Health.
http://www.vegetariannutrition.net/articles/Essential-Fatty-Acids-in-Vegetarian-Nutrition.php - Vegetarian Nutrition, a 'dietic practice group' of the American Dietic Association.

To summarise (as the first article especially is long) these sources are readily available in nuts, tofu, and 'mixed greens' (specifically legumes). Both articles contain a table, in the first is is quite far down and must be opened in a link - here http://www.ajcn.org/content/78/3/640S/T1.expansion.html. The highest source outside of extracted oils would be walnuts and soybeans.

It is often posited there are health risks involved in being vegetarian or vegan, but as the first article explains, the opposite is overwhelmingly the case.

I do not mean to incite a debate, merely to clarify, I hope that I have not come across as argumentative.

Industrialised farming practices I think saddens us all :( I think as public awareness increases the practices will become illegal, it certainly would be to treat a pet like that.
Links doesn't work for me:-(
But as I recall vegan diet force you to take some supplements (especially pregnant women)
and vegans who also eat fish (I don't remember how is it called - some many of this diet types) are even more healthier than regular vegans. Definitely this is a good choice but not for everyone as it must be very carefully planned.
I think that best option is to eat every type of food in reasonable quantities.

btw - I always wondered - does vegan mothers breastfeed their children?
Posted November 26, 2010
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broether-eros: Industrialised farming practices I think saddens us all :( I think as public awareness increases the practices will become illegal, it certainly would be to treat a pet like that.
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exerron: The problem with that is the following: Industrialized farming is cheap and produces very high quantities of goods. While it's highly debatable, most would agree that it's better for the animals to suffer than for us (as in humanity, or parts of it) to starve. Because if more humane treatment for animals would result in the increase of price or decrease in quantities, then this could be a serious issue.
I think a global level of population control is needed for various reasons, one of them being these issues. But that is very far from being possible...In witch case, it's rather hard to com to a sensible opinion, that would be humane in every, or at least most aspects.
The question of efficiency of resources is an interesting point, because it would be even more efficient not to eat animals at all :) Thus the resources spent on raising that animal are saved- considereing the animal is itself only eaten once. I have come across that several environmental groups with no specific interest in animal walfare advocate a vegetarian diet simply for reasons of efficiency of resources and environmental impact.

Edit: sorry Mal_Khar I've fixed those links, I had used the link function incorrectly. That's a pretty funny question about the mothers, I have no idea :) Probably better not to after all the dope they smoked might get their baby stoned lol. :) hehe, j/k any vegans out there please don't hate me :)
Post edited November 26, 2010 by broether-eros
Posted November 27, 2010
Bah, for every one of you hippie vegan tpes that doesn't eat meat i'll eat your share and then some.......yummmmmmmmmmmmmy nom nom noms. :)
Posted November 27, 2010
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GameRager: Bah, for every one of you hippie vegan tpes that doesn't eat meat i'll eat your share and then some.......yummmmmmmmmmmmmy nom nom noms. :)
Hey dude, meat is murder! Tasty, tasty murder. ;)
Posted November 27, 2010
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GameRager: Bah, for every one of you hippie vegan tpes that doesn't eat meat i'll eat your share and then some.......yummmmmmmmmmmmmy nom nom noms. :)
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DarrkPhoenix: Hey dude, meat is murder! Tasty, tasty murder. ;)
MMMMMMMMMM.....here bunny rabbit, little chickadee.......here little animulssss.....
Posted November 27, 2010
Wait, we really have 4 pages talking about the latest eco-terrorist sim game, right? I mean: we are talking about a game?
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