Posted November 04, 2011

Robbeasy
Too Old
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom

Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted November 04, 2011


On the other hand, the tick mark in Swedish schools means "wrong" and an R is "correct" (think "that's Right"), unlike much of the rest of the world where an X is "wrong" and the tick mark is "correct", so I guess my education is just trying to confuse me.
Post edited November 04, 2011 by Miaghstir

Dingbat Doodlehead
WebReg
Registered: May 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted November 04, 2011
Two people rate a game, one gives it 1/5 another gives it 5/5.
What is the correct score for the game 1 or 5? Or 3 - the average of the two?
I'd say that the correct score for the game is 1 and 5.
And you wont know what score you'll give it until you play it - and, no this isn't some weird Schrodinger's cat stuff.
Sometimes not even then - there are many games I have come back to after just not getting into them first time round and ended up loving later.
Scores, and even detailed wordy reviews, are 100% subjective - provided you reject simply unplayable buggy games (and we don't have any of those here, do we?).
You have to just go on your gut instinct reading other peoples reviews. Does this person sound like they like the sorts of game you like? Do they mention other games you've played and compare against those? Do they sound like a self opinionated git with an axe to grind?
Two good things about GOG in this respect:
1) The games have been around long enough to have a lot written about them to make an educated choice most of the time.
2) Hey! They are cheap - a mistake here and there aint gonna hurt.
For me the above is true no matter which system you have so I don't thinks its really worth the effort to change the system because there is no system that is "better" - it would just be different.
What is the correct score for the game 1 or 5? Or 3 - the average of the two?
I'd say that the correct score for the game is 1 and 5.
And you wont know what score you'll give it until you play it - and, no this isn't some weird Schrodinger's cat stuff.
Sometimes not even then - there are many games I have come back to after just not getting into them first time round and ended up loving later.
Scores, and even detailed wordy reviews, are 100% subjective - provided you reject simply unplayable buggy games (and we don't have any of those here, do we?).
You have to just go on your gut instinct reading other peoples reviews. Does this person sound like they like the sorts of game you like? Do they mention other games you've played and compare against those? Do they sound like a self opinionated git with an axe to grind?
Two good things about GOG in this respect:
1) The games have been around long enough to have a lot written about them to make an educated choice most of the time.
2) Hey! They are cheap - a mistake here and there aint gonna hurt.
For me the above is true no matter which system you have so I don't thinks its really worth the effort to change the system because there is no system that is "better" - it would just be different.

pH7
Jörmungandr
Registered: Jan 2010
From Norway
Posted November 04, 2011

I've bought 170+ games here and still haven't voted on a single one of them. Main reason is laziness, closely followed by not wanting to give a good game 3 stars - that is, a medium/average rating - as the current ratings indicate that most people would read 3 stars as bad and not worth buying, which wouldn't be my intention; A mediocre game is still enjoyable - it's just not blowing you away and making you forget how many hours you've been playing. In order to keep my job, I need games I can play for only an hour or two before quitting, without getting nasty withdrawals..
I've enjoyed most of the GOG games I've played (got a rather large backlog so there's plenty left to try), yet I'd only give 5 stars to maybe three or four of them, a dozen or so would get 4 stars, and only a very few would get 2 stars (none would get only 1 star).

morciu
stay in school
Registered: Apr 2011
From Romania
Posted November 04, 2011
i would like separate rating categories, one of them should be "how well has it aged", games grow old too.

Trilarion
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From Germany
Posted November 04, 2011

edit: forgot for a second you can sort revies by most recent. Still, more exposure for user reviews might encourage more of them, and along with some moderation could improve overall quality.
Somehow going away from the rating towards better featuring the reviews would be nice.
Actually I like wpeggs approach of creating pros and cons lists, then you could simply agree/disagree by voting on the pros and cons individually.
Even people who don't like a specific game usually accept that it can still have some pros.
Post edited November 04, 2011 by Trilarion

Poulscath
Goglodyte
Registered: Aug 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted November 05, 2011
I think part of the problem is that people think of ratings like they do of the scores they got in school; roughly, <50% is a fail.
Maybe a rating system that would work would be to select a descriptive word instead of numbers or stars. Thus you'd rate games as one of excellent, good, average, bad, vomit-inducingly horrific
Ok, maybe not that last one but my point stands :)
Maybe a rating system that would work would be to select a descriptive word instead of numbers or stars. Thus you'd rate games as one of excellent, good, average, bad, vomit-inducingly horrific
Ok, maybe not that last one but my point stands :)

Trilarion
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From Germany
Posted November 07, 2011

You could possibly do something on the GOGwiki to manage it, and allow people to quickly find those reviews.
If the current system is to be kept instead, I would strongly vote for:
1. Showing it also in the games catalogue (maybe a bit smaller). Since you can sort for it, it should also be visible.
2. Create a tool tip that appears with the one digit number (eg 4.9) showing the rating more accurately when hovering over the rating.
3. Fixing the review system: deleting nonsense reviews and making them more prominent, maybe devoting a whole page for them.
Now, it's GOG's turn to decide what to do with it. We cannot do more than brainstorming.