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they should torrenting free 2 play games, that will crush em all
I've always liked the anti-piracy idea of releasing buggy or unplayable versions of the game onto torrent sites. Seems like it would be the best way to dissuade people from pirating. Like, have a version of the game that simply cuts out halfway through. Nobody would ever know if they were downloading a "good" version, and a lot of people would simply not bother to go throug hthe hassle.
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jefequeso: I've always liked the anti-piracy idea of releasing buggy or unplayable versions of the game onto torrent sites. Seems like it would be the best way to dissuade people from pirating. Like, have a version of the game that simply cuts out halfway through. Nobody would ever know if they were downloading a "good" version, and a lot of people would simply not bother to go throug hthe hassle.
It actually ends up leading to shitty word of mouth, which is why you don't see it done more often.
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jefequeso: I've always liked the anti-piracy idea of releasing buggy or unplayable versions of the game onto torrent sites. Seems like it would be the best way to dissuade people from pirating. Like, have a version of the game that simply cuts out halfway through. Nobody would ever know if they were downloading a "good" version, and a lot of people would simply not bother to go throug hthe hassle.
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orcishgamer: It actually ends up leading to shitty word of mouth, which is why you don't see it done more often.
Publishers do sabotage games from time to time for release over torrent. Personally, I don't like the idea because of the shitty word of mouth, but also sometimes the additional checks end up harming people who bought a legit copy due to a bug in the implementation.
I do have a question about this practice.

Am I right in assuming that it's actually legal to download "official" pirate versions?
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jefequeso: I've always liked the anti-piracy idea of releasing buggy or unplayable versions of the game onto torrent sites. Seems like it would be the best way to dissuade people from pirating. Like, have a version of the game that simply cuts out halfway through. Nobody would ever know if they were downloading a "good" version, and a lot of people would simply not bother to go throug hthe hassle.
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orcishgamer: It actually ends up leading to shitty word of mouth, which is why you don't see it done more often.
Happens even if they don't do it on purpose, sadly. I remember reading about it from the Relic QA manager's blog over Sin Episodes: Emergence. Bugs exclusive to the pirated version garnered significant negative attention.

And I think Batman: Arkham Asylum had a problem with it, too. But managed to overcome the bad press element.

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Jaime: I do have a question about this practice.

Am I right in assuming that it's actually legal to download "official" pirate versions?
Not really. It's the entire basis for the honeypot sting. It's kind of case-by-case ultimately. There's a good defense in this instance, because being so public about it seems like implicit permission.
Post edited September 15, 2011 by Taleroth
well i knew nothing about the game til this thread, played the flash game and laughed that much i bought the game on their site, looking forward to the free second game for having done so!
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orcishgamer: It actually ends up leading to shitty word of mouth, which is why you don't see it done more often.
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hedwards: Publishers do sabotage games from time to time for release over torrent. Personally, I don't like the idea because of the shitty word of mouth, but also sometimes the additional checks end up harming people who bought a legit copy due to a bug in the implementation.
It's been tried from time to time, the idea certainly isn't new. It usually ends up backfiring on the developers though. Likewise, DRM checks that silently crash the game tend to backfire on the devs, I recall some dev shop complaining about their reviews because of an improperly cracked copy crashing a lot.

Overall, you're unlikely to convert anyone this way and you just might piss off someone who's clever enough to figure out how to hurt you (rightly or wrongly), there's just no real good reason for it.
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StingingVelvet: It's a good idea.

The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of people who will buy your game if they like you and your business, but pirate it if not. "Fuck EA!" they say, "they closed Bullfrog and their shareholders drive Ferraris! I Shall pirate their games and laugh!" If you're a "cool" indie dev though...

That said I think those people are vastly outnumbered by selfish shits who pirate everything and don't give a fuck.
Agreed. Games will always get pirated so, as a developer, you might as well have a sense of humor about it and attempt to market to the pirates.
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ChickenHero: It's kind of funny they are interacting with pirates but at the same time, pirates are getting a superior product if they get pirate hats and paying customers don't?

Seems kind of silly tbh, unless of course they have a hidden IP tracker or virus in the torrent.
On the bright side, they get an unfixed, unpolished version.
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ChickenHero: It's kind of funny they are interacting with pirates but at the same time, pirates are getting a superior product if they get pirate hats and paying customers don't?

Seems kind of silly tbh, unless of course they have a hidden IP tracker or virus in the torrent.
I think uploading a copy of your game yourself puts downloading it in legal gray waters, so I'm not sure they could successfully prosecute. Putting a virus in the torrent could easily lead to criminal charges against them.