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Where our computers come to die.

Terra Blight, a documentary that explores the intricacies of American consumerism through the story of the computer, is available on GOG.com for $5.99.

Terra Blight traces the life cycle of computers from creation to disposal and juxtaposes the disparate worlds that have computers as their center. From a 13-year-old Ghanaian who smashes obsolete monitors to salvage copper to a 3,000-person video game party in Texas, Terra Blight examines the unseen realities of one of the most ubiquitous toxic wastes on our planet. The film employs a style similar to Gimme Green, whereby the audience encounters many dynamic characters and accesses the problem through subtle humor and identification with subjects on-screen. Shot in crisp HD, Terra Blight navigates surreal landscapes with a sensitive cinema vérité lens that conveys the unique point-of-view of each character.

If you thought that the only reason for keeping your 20-year old PC is to play some good old games every now and then, you need to see Terra Blight, for only $5.99, and find out what happens with the PCs no one kept.
Sent a msg to support for fixing the "newspost not showing on frontpage" since the blues seem on vacation this afternoon :)
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catpower1980: Sent a msg to support for fixing the "newspost not showing on frontpage" since the blues seem on vacation this afternoon :)
Spacecom isn't showing up either ;)

edit: forget what I wrote. It got a newspost now.
Post edited September 17, 2014 by real.geizterfahr
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catpower1980: Sent a msg to support for fixing the "newspost not showing on frontpage" since the blues seem on vacation this afternoon :)
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real.geizterfahr: Spacecom isn't showing up either ;)
Yup, just noticed that too and no official "news" thread for the game in the forum yet. They are busy drinking vodka for someone's birthday I guess ;)
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ZwaanME: Well, they used to be in the business of satisfying my needs when they were still called Good Old Games. It's entirely up tot GOG.com to offer services that do not appeal to me and many of the other users of their website. But I will take any opportunity I get (thank you for replying) to remind them that their oldest and most loyal users are here looking for classic games and not for documentaries or indie games (which are an offer on many, many other websites). If you check the forum and look at the requested features you'll find there are no more than about 65 users asking for DRM free movies and tv series. And I seriously doubt they had scores of documentaries in mind when they added their request. But there are 16000 users asking for more good old games. So I'm not just voicing my needs but those of thousands of GOG.com users.
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HypersomniacLive: You have every right to only be interested in a certain subset of the content carried by GOG, but not the right to ask them to exclusively operate around it, As JMich said, people come to GOG for a number of reasons, and asking GOG to only cater to what you're interested in, aside from not being fair to everyone else, makes no sense from a business POV - just because something doesn't appeal to you, it doesn't have to mean that it's not selling; I think it's safe to assume that GOG knows better.
Besides, it's not like they're not also catering to what you're looking for - classics. JMich has all the facts, and you can also check them out on MaGog, developed and maintained by our fellow GOGer mrkgnao, by clicking on the "MeTrics" button.

Regarding the forum and how representative it is regarding what GOG's user base wants - GOG made the following revealation in a recent interview:

GOG users have a combined 45 million games on their virtual shelves
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HypersomniacLive: This should tell you that the forum is only a very small portion of GOG's total user base - mrkgnao made a very interesting and to the point comment here.

You speak with great confidence in the name of "their oldest and most loyal users", which you shouldn't really unless you've spoken with every single one of them and they've agreed with you. So, continue to voice your wants, just be careful about the arguments you use to do so.
You are right, forums are always used by a minority of users. But to quote from the interview with Rambourg:
"I think the fact that we have such a faithful, vocal community, that's probably the best proof that GOG has performed well. To us, the most important thing is not how many users we have or how many sales we have; the most important thing is how many active gamers are coming back to GOG every day to talk to other members of the community, to buy new games, simply to keep the website alive, and have interest in it."

And I have been coming here almost daily for the past four years and I've noticed that GOG.com is releasing fewer and fewer good old games. That's why I'm reminding them of what thousands of their users have indicated. Which happens to coincide with what I want. And they can offer whatever they want on GOG.com as long as they don't forget where the initials GOG came from. If they want to sell concert tickets, t-shirts, mouse pads and mugs with pictures from games on it, I won't mind (or buy). But if they stop supplying me with good old games I will start looking for another website that does offer what GOG.com used to. And the 16000 users who have indicated they also want good old games might very well do the same along with a lot of other users who've never bothered to visit the forum or to press the "I think so too" button.

And it would be interesting to know the break down of those 45 million games owned by all the users of GOG.com. How do the sales of indie games and newer releases compare to the good old games? Unfortunately Rambourg doesn't address that in the interview.
This looks quite interesting and somehow important to see! Something similar to what we can usually watch during One World Film Festivals (for those interested I made a wishlist with explanation)
Post edited September 17, 2014 by cyboff
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ZwaanME: So please guys (and girls), stick to what you're good at: deliver us good old games. Games we can't buy on Steam or other online stores.
So should GOG remove the Witcher games from the store then? Let alone all those old classics that have appeared also on Steam? 100% disagreement. I want GOG to bring more games to the store, even if they are already on Steam or elsewhere. Bioshocks, rest of the Hitman and Tomb Raider games (or as many as you can) etc.

Restricting themselves only to games that other stores are not interested in doesn't sound like a viable business model, and GOG seems to agree, hence they are not restricting themselves that way.

As for movies: yes I also want more interesting movies, so far the selection isn't that interesting. But unlike ZwaanME, I don't want GOG to throw in the towel quite yet. Keep trying GOG, you have the right idea.
Post edited September 17, 2014 by timppu
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ZwaanME: to remind them that their oldest and most loyal users are here looking for classic games and not for documentaries or indie games (which are an offer on many, many other websites).
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JMich: Oy, don't assume to speak for me. Or anyone else.

People are on GOG for different reasons. Those reasons include, but are not limited to, old games, games, prices, lack of regional locks, community, drm-free, exclusives, or promotion. There are people here who do buy stuff only because it's on GOG, and they won't buy it elsewhere.

GOG assumes that movies and documentaries will be a good move for them. They do have more facts than we do, and it's their business on the line. So do complain, but don't think you know all the facts, especially without knowing how well (if at all) the movies and indie games are selling.
Hear, hear. +1
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ZwaanME: And it would be interesting to know the break down of those 45 million games owned by all the users of GOG.com. How do the sales of indie games and newer releases compare to the good old games? Unfortunately Rambourg doesn't address that in the interview.
Sorry, but the comparison between "indie/new" and "good old" releases is totally irrelevant.

Something way more relevant to your comments would be the total number of GOG users.

What do you think?
How many games has the average GOG user on his/her shelf?

800?

Shall we calculate, how many GOG customers that makes?
Let's see:

45.000.000 games total / 800 games per user = 56.250 users

But, hey - we both know, that not every user has all 800 games on his/her shelf, right?
So, let's try it with 600:

45.000.000 games total / 600 games per user = 75.000 users

Hm,...could still be too many games per user, don't you think?
Let's go on:

45.000.000 games total / 400 games per user = 112.500 users
45.000.000 games total / 300 games per user = 150.000 users
45.000.000 games total / 200 games per user = 225.000 users
45.000.000 games total / 100 games per user = 450.000 users
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Seriously now, pick your favorite among the numbers above - it doesn't matter, which one - because every single one (yes, even the most unlikely event of 800 games per user) proves just one thing -
your "16000 users asking for more good old games", are the minority.
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ZwaanME: [...]

And I have been coming here almost daily for the past four years and I've noticed that GOG.com is releasing fewer and fewer good old games.

[...] looking for another website that does offer what GOG.com used to [...]
Fewer and fewer? They still release at least one old game per week. Did they ever used to release tons of old games per week and I somehow missed it?

This discussion has made the rounds on the forum multiple times, and people who dislike any and all other content on GOG are never convinced that GOG still releases classics on a steady rate. I didn't really expect that you'd be an exception when I directed you to the public data.

And by all means, do go looking for another online store (I assume that's what you meant by "website"), but I doubt that you'll find one that does a better job than GOG regarding what you're looking for.
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Rinu: I recommend trying quiz How many slaves work for you? based on how many devices (among other things) you use and it is enriched with data.
that site is interesting, though it could be far more accurate by including how much you spend a year on average of each of the categories. this is a result of 2 things: 1st that the less something costs, the more one needs to make of it, which means that you are using less of the slave's time (and thus contributing less to his slavery). 2nd that the longer you manage to keep a product, the less you are buying to support the slave. gifts can skew this though, so one would have to estimate the value of gifts in the spending. there's a lot of little things like what brand your computer is will determine how much slave labor went into the product. this picking of products would be huge if they included prostitution. just to give you an idea of the inaccuracies, figure the number of female partners you've had sex with, then divide that number by 4, and that is the number of times you've raped someone (by how they figure things). by not figuring the work rate of the slaves, and then figuring how much of that work you got, all that they tell you is that you are receiving direct benefit from x number of slaves. they word it to make you feel guilty (much like the rape analogy), but if you don't know of the wide reaching impact of slavery it will get you to think (which is good).
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ZwaanME: If you check the forum and look at the requested features you'll find there are no more than about 65 users asking for DRM free movies and tv series. And I seriously doubt they had scores of documentaries in mind when they added their request. But there are 16000 users asking for more good old games. So I'm not just voicing my needs but those of thousands of GOG.com users.
low hanging fruit. more specifically the cost and effort of implementing the selling of movies was cheaper than the projected profits. from 65 users. the cost and effort of more good old games (at a rate you want) is greater than the projected profits from 16000 users. is this greedy? not exactly. if they don't make money then those that might sell to them will see that the DRM-free model is not profitable and decide that they'll go the DRM route. if they do make profits then those that might sell to them will see that the DRM-free route works and will go DRM-free. given how entrenched the movie industry is in DRM it is only logical that they start at those that are cast off from that industry due to the image of being unprofitable, and show that they can make a profit with this model. after that happens some will low numbers might decide to try the DRM-free strategy. if those succeed then more will follow, slowly but surely. the game industry is not much different, as the low hanging fruit are picked, the rate of influx will slow down to the DRM-free path, and until they manage to swing modern non-indie games it will only be a trickle and an oddity. at some point some CEOs will see that there might be something there for them. at that point they will give a try with some of their less valuable titles (old games they have the rights on), and at that point if it is successful there will be a deluge of AAA titles coming over to the DRM-free side of things. given that we have both GoG and steam right now, if GoG dies online DRM will become the standard for years to come. i don't know about you, but i don't like that idea one bit.
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jamoecw: snip
Free advice : let your posts breathe a bit (read : a lot) more.
A perfect wall of text is really hard to handle for the many 'foreigners' of the goglodyticity.
A very interesting movie. Up till now I didn't feel tempted to buy movies on GOG as for me it's a game site and I like gaming more than seeing documentaries about games, but this is something more different and real.

Not sure if I can handle it though, just got home from a weekend with my family where they had some newspapers and magazines lying around and now my head is spinning from child slaves in Haiti, people making a living on the garbage dumps in Nairobi, several thousand people that drowned in total this year on the Mediterrean, trying to cross to Europe, imagining how it must be in the Sahara, which people have to cross too but deaths there are ignored in the media and the lives of people with disabilities (both mental illnesses and physical disabilities) walking the streets at night in Freetown, Sierra Leone, begging as they are chased out of day society.

This world makes me sick as it is already and I feel torn between me wanting to use two tablets, a desktop, a laptop and the situation in the world where people suffer because of our wants. I feel more like exiting the world than read or see even more about the injustices of it. So sick of life, but alas, this isn't the bitch about life in general yet.

Maybe I won't buy, just to try to stave off depression - even though that's a hopeless quest :-(
Post edited September 21, 2014 by DubConqueror
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ZwaanME: So please guys (and girls), stick to what you're good at: deliver us good old games. Games we can't buy on Steam or other online stores.s.
You know the increasing amount of newer media alongside games made pre 15th century is easily explainable by 1) copyright, 2) success, and 3) diversity letting them strengthen their businesses to continue purusing older games, right?

I want Command and Conquer Generals, too bad EA noticed that GOG was making money off of re-releasing older games, that Valve was making a decently sized fortune through their distribution platform, and promptly decided to even things out by doing both. Now C&C Generals is on Origin. What about Microsoft? Well all know how willing they are to give their games to a third party to release, or have you never had to deal with the hell that was Games for Windows Live?

Any big increase in the backlog will necessitate companies agreeing to let GOG put them up DRM free and at a standard price, two issues which GOG has repeatedly noted can be a very hard sell and that there's a lot of companies not interested in it. GOG has also repeatedly refused to tell us exactly which companies, something about a horde of impatient gamers not being the best diplomats. :P

Still, older games are being released at the rate of at least one per week and the latest news is that GOG is signing a major publisher later this year which should result in more than a few games hitting the store. If they need to put a movie or ten up in the store to convince publishers that DRM free is good, if they need to take more time signing publishers up and/or getting older games to work, well cool. We still get older games and we will continue getting older games. It might not be at a rate you like, but unless you've got the $$$ and lawyers necessary to "convince" publishers to cooperate then you might need to be a bit more patient.

And for the record, I want games that are on Steam too as I despise that platform. I would much rather use GOG for all my digital purchases as everything is just so much easier on GOG. Also higher quality, FLAC soundtracks was a great touch.

"Our goal is to offer you cinema classics as well as some all-time favorite TV series.". I bet you're sorry you ever wrote that line seeing as how none of the documentaries on offer can be (or ever will be) considered "cinema classics".
I bet you're sorry you ever wrote that line without previously consulting a dictionary. :P

Goal: The object of a person's ambition or effort; an aim or desired result.

Goal is what you want, not what you have. If you had it then it wouldn't be a goal, or at least not a current goal.