Red Dead isn't the second coming, lol. It's the only game from Rockstar I'm willing to try after wasting my time with GTA4. If Red Dead sucks, then Rockstar can take a hike.

Nothing from Rockstar will ever equal what CDPR , Bioware, or Bethesda does. Their games are for casual play, the type where you turn your brain off.

Oh right, I was thinking of the third one (which is the second one that I played).

Red Dead Redemption is one of the few games in a western setting made in the past few years, and it's actually good. Publishers in general try really hard to fit into whatever is mainstream and westerns aren't. See stupid Ubisoft who decided to bring Call of Juarez from the Wild West of the previous two into "our time" in The Cartel. And that sucked.Mainstream isn't always the answer.

Btw, except having "Red Dead" in the name it doesn't have anything in common with the previous game.

I really doubt there's going to be a PC port for Red Dead from Rockstar. But hey, we'll be playing 360 games on Windows 8 so it's only a matter of time :)

So is Red Dead Revolver any good or not then?
I'll put it on my list of games to hunt down for original XBox if it is...

Well, they are from the same publisher and development team, and western setting? But it does sound Redemption is more of a sandbox game than Revolver.

It'll definitely be interesting to see how the "play XBox360 games on Win8" thing will work out. I seem to recall some kind of old "play Playstation games on Macs" add-on long time ago, or in the 80s the "play Colecovision console games on Spectravideo SVI-328 home computer" adapter. :) Except that in this case no adapters or add-on cards are needed, apparently.

Oh dear, it'd better be Steam DRM-free... I recall R* explicitly stating that only the Steam version would be Steamworks-enabled.

Simply amazing game. Nuff said.

Red Dead also. Rockstar completely redeemed themselves after the good but not memorable GTA IV. After Nintendo they are my favorite game designers of today.

From what I've read, I think XBox Live on Win 8 will be more about cross-platform multiplayer and competeing with Steam than actually emulating games written for a PowerPC platfor like the 360 - apparenly XBox libve is alread in the latest windows mobile and THAT doesn't let you run XBox 360 games, you won't be suprised to hear

That would be nice. Maybe GG is referring to GFWL, though usually they just write GFWL.

This is what a representative of Rockstar said (in the comments section):
http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/18991/la-noire-the-complete-edition-coming-to-pc-this-november.html

"@eruul2012 L.A. Noire for PC will not use Games for Windows Live. You may have missed it when we said this earlier, but if you buy the game from Steam it will support Steamworks with achievements, however keep in mind that you will not get Steamworks functionality if you purchase the game at retail."

I've checked the description of the game on gamersgate and found this:

"Other Requirements: Initial activation requires internet connection and Rockstar Social Club (13+ to register); software installation required including GameShield IronWrap & Patcher; DirectX, and Microsoft’s Windows .NET Framework, and Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86)."

That sounds promising.
http://www.gameshield.com/Home.aspx

Yeah that sounds good. Thanks for the link.

I would agree with you, if not for the erratic FPS rate that plagues me and people on the steam forums. MY copy of TBOGT has the most bullshit fps rate I have ever seen, one particular mission of yusuf amir TANKS the rate to around 10 as soon as I get near the harbour. Water that is just as same as anywhere else in the city and yet, it kills my fps. What is REALLY a kick in the balls is the fact that one of the first missions (if not the first) has you driving past that harbour, yet the FPS is a steady 40+ FPS. I noted that nothing has changed from the two missions, and visiting it out side the missions results in a fps drop, but not as pronounced.

Lower the sliders you might think? No difference whatsoever, no matter what graphical change, slider or resolution I do, that same area on that particular mission is an unplayable mess. Oh and bridges, the to main ones? In both GTA4 patched to 1.7 and ELFC patched to 1.2 whenever I cross them, at any time, the fps drops to 17, from 40. Even worse when I make GTA4 and ELFC look like an xbox 1.5 game and the drop is from 50-60 FPS.

I tried every damn solution, all the damn -cmd lines and not a single lick of difference is made. I'm not the only one, the steam forum is filled with the same complaints, the game running like a bad of Shit on systems much better then mine (win 7 ultimate, 4GB RAM, ATI 6850, 3.2 Phenom 2).

I just don't get it, I stress out my CPU with games like Mafia 2 and DOW 2, which use the cpu to it's extent, but have a much better rate of FPS. Hell, even the Battlefield 3 beta ran fine at 720P and settings on high, and the action physics in that is on a greater scale then what I've seen in GTA4. I play TW2 on high settings, which uses all four threads of my CPU, yet the overall consistency is good, better with the patches. Yes, the AI in GTA4 is advanced, but I cannot fathom that after 7 patches, that rockstar managed to use very powerful processors to perform soo poorly in that game, and for me, in this game out of my entire collection

But do I hate the GTA games? Nope, I adore them and replay them because they are damn fine games.

I might've come off and annoyed in this post, I apologize for that, I spent hours trying to fix, admittedly, minor problems and gave up and enjoyed the two games.