Sorry to interrupt this ... errrm ... whatever I'm interrupting, but there was a question about the specifics of the Void service before the discussion turned to ... errrm ... whatever it has turned to, and there has been a slightly more informative official statement in the meantime:

On GamersGate's Twitter account, the question about the amount and frequency of the ads has been answered with the following statement:

Games, for you, for free! All you gotta do is watch 60 seconds of ads when you launch the game :)

And now, I'll refer you back to your regular ... errrm ... whatever you were doing. ;)

Just takin it to the reds like we did in 89.

LOL

Don't mind Stoic, he's just a troll.

This is interesting news. In game advertising rarely works and interrupting game play for it is not something that would work either. But, 60 seconds at the beginning isn't too bad.

nah mate. if you can't find proper info about a product and base your knowledge on the ad then it is your fault.
ads supposed to be fun to watch and inform you that a product exists. and then it is your job (as it is your money) to find out whether to buy, rent, ruse etc. it.

Proper ad is entertaining bullshit. Informative... it never was. Like i said: they lie. every single time. even if what they say is true it is also a lie because that's how ads operate. therefore if you are expecting ads to be informative you are susceptible to bullshit yourself.

You mean examples of ads?? If you want a link, I don't have one handy, but if you Google Julia Roberts ad banned you'll find one recent one I think. Banned in UK, perfectly fine here.

There was one about two years ago that also invovled makeup IIRC.

They were deemed "misleading" which is actually quite a bit less than outright lying, I guess some could claim.

Point is advertisements should not be allowed to lie, or mislead, or misinform (unless the lying is so over the top that it's obviously parody, that's ok). That is that's way it used to be. It seems to me many of today's ignorant want to repeat history and return to completely laisezz-faire, caveat emptor atmosphere. Too bad they're too fucking stupid to know how that always ends up. Especially when there's, you know, history to help show them.

No, I expect ads to be informative because I expect people not to lie to me. Yes, nowadays you have to do a lot of research on something before you buy it, but it shouldn't be like that.

A horror story, indeed. I'm reminded of that time that Standard Oil had to be destroyed because it was giving consumers too much for too little. Or was it because it only had 150 competitors? I can't remember what the story was.

"More are planned" is exactly what we have been hearing with e-book stores, like Sony's for instance. ( US and Canada, UK would come in Q1 but is not yet available. In the end, small ( and even not so small ) countries are usually left aside.

Could you imagine that for instance, the FNAC stores in France, Belgium and Switzerland all sell a dedicated reader but that downloading from the fnac website ( be it paying titles or public domain) is restricted to people located in France ? "later"... yeah, sure....

As a matter of fact , digital media sometimes manages to re-invent border limitations that have disappeared for physical goods.

When i saw the advert i went wtf then released gamersgate void service which is rather cool by the way. Thinkk they needed to explain void a bit more .

I think people sometimes are a little bit...GOG focused around here. The Gamersgate ad also resembles a fairly prevelant Best Buy series of commericals from when they got into used games (characters like soldiers, monsters, knights in the real world dealing with the fact gamers traded them away).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0LkHcbSy2M&feature=relmfu

but they always lie. since the invention of advertisment they lie. so not nowadays. always.

ads which are informative are designed to bullshit you into buying their crap (or renting or simply using etc) by providing you with an info in such a way that even truth is a lie.
There is no other way. none.

so if you want informative ad then you want to be lied to. you want to be 'brainwashed'.


no. ads should not be informative. if you want to spend money on something it is your responsibility to find out about the product, whether you need it etc. don't rely on ad to tell you anything

Therefore if GG had more info and you said: "well that sounds interesting i better check it out" then you fall for their trap. you been bullshit into finding their crap good for you instead of making your own mind about it.

sans this ad is a good one. not the best by fair margin of course but was a bit funny to watch (did not like the f--- word either. too forced)

I wasn't talking about the Gamersgate whatever it is when writing my previous post. Their whatever it is doesn't tell you anything so it isn't being dishonest. So it isn't entertaining bullshit to me. I was talking about the stuff that says things like "buy 1 TV and get 1 TV free!!!" with a dancing chimp next to it. Then you enter the store and find out, they never had this offer.

As far as laws go, I seem to recall the Truth in Advertising laws being around. Has the US changed THAT much since I've been away?

Also, if GamersGate is really imitating GOG in their vid, then "imitation is the highest form of flattery" (I think Salvador Dali said that one but don't hold me to that!)

Wow, so much ignorance in single paragraph. That's pretty impressive. Your parents must be proud.