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JudasIscariot: Sooo, did you ever get that job?
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tburger: No, but not because I didn't manage to build this hostpital model :-) My command of a german language was simply unsufficient for the job that requires regular contacts with Germans, sending reports to a HQ in Germany etc.
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DrIstvaan: Well, the HR woman DID ask me if I think I am able to work in a team... which is understandable, as if I get the job, I'll be working among some 60 other people, and also, as part of a smaller team.
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tburger: Ok., but you are not a deviant or sociopath, right? Ordinary people have family, friends, attended some schools, meet people. So I assume they have at least basic social skills – so what's the point of asking if they can work in team? Of course they can!
Work and social contacts are two different beasts, in my opinion. Outside of work, you choose with whom you wish to associate yourself with, whereas, in a work environment you have no control over who you will be working with. I think the question should really be stated as follows: "Can you work in a team of strangers?"
It seems I *am* one of the luckiest job seekers, as I've received a phone call from the company that interviewed me, and they inquired whether I'm still interested in this job. So, I'm about to be employed (and become a Gamer with a Job) - however, my 3-month trial period only begins after a two-week training session, after which I'll still have to take a test to prove I'm worthy to work there, having learned what the training taught me, so there's still some chance I won't make it, but I doubt it.
So, thank you all, once more!
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DrIstvaan: It seems I *am* one of the luckiest job seekers, as I've received a phone call from the company that interviewed me, and they inquired whether I'm still interested in this job. So, I'm about to be employed (and become a Gamer with a Job) - however, my 3-month trial period only begins after a two-week training session, after which I'll still have to take a test to prove I'm worthy to work there, having learned what the training taught me, so there's still some chance I won't make it, but I doubt it.
So, thank you all, once more!
Nice one - Congratulations!
Kijk , zo kan het dus ook. Hopelijk laten ze je niet schieten , het zou hun verlies zijn. :)

That's how it should be. Hopefully they won't let you go , would be their loss. :)
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DrIstvaan: Once again, thanks for all your good wishes!
I started with the tests, a logical one to determine how analytic I am and how quickly I learn (there were 60 exercises, each containing eight patterns, and I had to write which one of the six given ones could be the ninth one according to which they are placed), and a general IT knowledge one.
All that for a HELP DESK position?

Jeebus. You'd think you were applying for chief rocket engineer at NASA.
Looks like I'm REALLY in demand - an other company approached me with a position which would need to be filled urgently. This one is not customer service but an Accountant Payable position (whatever that means).
I've told them that I'd just got word that an other company judged my application favorably, but I'm going for an interview with them anyway (so that in case I find out customer service work isn't for me and that other position is still open I can easily apply for that).

@Robbeasy
Thank you!
@CyPhErIoN
Bedankt :-).
@stonebro
Yeah, I figure they want to make sure no imbeciles work with them and that applicants are able to catch up with new technologies, directives and such quickly.
Post edited October 25, 2011 by DrIstvaan
Congrats on the offers!
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DrIstvaan: This one is not customer service but an Accountant Payable position (whatever that means).
Accounts Payable is a subset of the Accounting Department. Basically, they're the people who take the incoming invoices and turn them into payments for the vendors: you buy something from me, I send an invoice to you at Accounts Payable, you ignore the due date for a while, and then eventually send me the payment three weeks late.

You can also liken it to your home finances: Accounts Receivable gets the paycheck, Accounts Payable pays the bills.
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DrIstvaan: snip
Congrats and good luck!. It's good that you decided to go for the second interview. You should always look for new job opportunities.
Post edited October 25, 2011 by tburger
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DrIstvaan: snip
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tburger: Congrats and good luck!. It's good that you decided to go for the second interview. You should always look for new job opportunities.
It's always good to have a backup plan in case something goes pear shaped. :D
Thank you for your compliments!
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HereForTheBeer: Congrats on the offers!
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DrIstvaan: This one is not customer service but an Accountant Payable position (whatever that means).
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HereForTheBeer: Accounts Payable is a subset of the Accounting Department. Basically, they're the people who take the incoming invoices and turn them into payments for the vendors: you buy something from me, I send an invoice to you at Accounts Payable, you ignore the due date for a while, and then eventually send me the payment three weeks late.

You can also liken it to your home finances: Accounts Receivable gets the paycheck, Accounts Payable pays the bills.
And also, thanks for clarifying!

@tburger
Yes, I though, why not try this one, too? It made sense that I also try to get myself known there, even if I already have a rather secure position, just in case.
any new developments yet DrIstvaan?
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CyPhErIoN: any new developments yet DrIstvaan?
Yes, I started work (in fact just training yet) yesterday, and I like my workplace very much so far. Everyone is friendly and open even with us newbies (for example, in the lunch break, I could just go and ask some questions from my to-be team manager and he provided me with all the info he could, taking the time to speak with me even though he wasn't currently on a break himself), and there's a sense of collegiality in the whole firm.
We're currently in general training, which is conducted apart from the desks we're going to work on (today, we learned about "soft skills" and their improvement), and after two weeks, we'll be in customer specific training, which will be conducted on the desks themselves, but even until then, we'll have opportunities to sit beside support agents working there and listen to their conversations with clients. I've realized there's a world of difference between being able to listen to some Dutch radio/television program (which I can do rather well) and understanding what a native Dutch speaker speaking in a natural manner says (where I've still got much, much room for improvement), so it's definitely a good and useful thing for me.
BTW, my company is owned by KPN, which may be familiar to the Dutch/Belgian users here, and I'll be working on the internal, KPN tech support desk.
Post edited November 03, 2011 by DrIstvaan
Well then good luck to you :).
Real dutch is only spoken by politicians and in television programs.
The kind of dutch they teach you in schools.

If you'll be dealing with end consumers then i think you'll find that you would hardly understand them. Dutch and belgian people have an urge to start talking in Nice dutch (Algemeen Nederlands) and then move to slang / flemish step by step.
Even we have problems understanding eachother if we go 60km in whatever direction..

But i guess you'll be able to pick it up.
Best way to learn , is speaking it often.
Post edited November 04, 2011 by CyPhErIoN