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saluk: Very off topic (although we already are pretty off!), history of science/philosophy stuff
After spending a few hours writing a reply to everything I've missed, dotting the i's and crossing the t's I found your post, which deals with a few basics that made me realize how totally pointless all my diligence and thoroughness was (with the following post only confirming that hypothesis). Logos bless you.
Post edited January 19, 2011 by Vestin
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GameRager: ]Perhaps, but isn't the best way to get to know someone walking a mile in their shoes?
I'm sort of at a loss on how to explain this to you, you're off on a tangent that bears no resemblance to the reality of what happened. I'd suggest going ahead and reading what happened, he was executed for basically not compromising his core beliefs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Socrates

And as for "knowing" religious people, you'll find more people who've read the Bible (or any other religious work, for that matter) in prison than in church. That's all anyone needs to know about religion (with apologies to Jehovah's Witnesses, which if nothing else, actually read their own scriptures). That's why I say Socrates probably already "knew" them and their religion better than they did. Socrates saw their point of view, they wouldn't allow him to have his, 'nuff said.

Also, I'm not aware that there's any empirical proof that "walking a mile in someone's shoes" actually makes you know them better. It's a common saying, but most likely empty without some scientific research to back it up.
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GameRager: ]Perhaps, but isn't the best way to get to know someone walking a mile in their shoes?
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orcishgamer: I'm sort of at a loss on how to explain this to you, you're off on a tangent that bears no resemblance to the reality of what happened. I'd suggest going ahead and reading what happened, he was executed for basically not compromising his core beliefs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Socrates

And as for "knowing" religious people, you'll find more people who've read the Bible (or any other religious work, for that matter) in prison than in church. That's all anyone needs to know about religion (with apologies to Jehovah's Witnesses, which if nothing else, actually read their own scriptures). That's why I say Socrates probably already "knew" them and their religion better than they did. Socrates saw their point of view, they wouldn't allow him to have his, 'nuff said.

Also, I'm not aware that there's any empirical proof that "walking a mile in someone's shoes" actually makes you know them better. It's a common saying, but most likely empty without some scientific research to back it up.
It was more a joking comment than a serious one, and partially fueled by a bit of misreading of various posts here as well. I hope you got the joke and also I apologize for any confusions. :)

Also lol at the bolded part above........I get the humor in it, and the subtle jab at my scientific leanings. I really do. ;)
Post edited January 19, 2011 by GameRager
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orcishgamer: I'm sort of at a loss on how to explain this to you, you're off on a tangent that bears no resemblance to the reality of what happened. I'd suggest going ahead and reading what happened, he was executed for basically not compromising his core beliefs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Socrates

And as for "knowing" religious people, you'll find more people who've read the Bible (or any other religious work, for that matter) in prison than in church. That's all anyone needs to know about religion (with apologies to Jehovah's Witnesses, which if nothing else, actually read their own scriptures). That's why I say Socrates probably already "knew" them and their religion better than they did. Socrates saw their point of view, they wouldn't allow him to have his, 'nuff said.

Also, I'm not aware that there's any empirical proof that "walking a mile in someone's shoes" actually makes you know them better. It's a common saying, but most likely empty without some scientific research to back it up.
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GameRager: It was more a joking comment than a serious one, and partially fueled by a bit of misreading of various posts here as well. I hope you got the joke and also I apologize for any confusions. :)

Also lol at the bolded part above........I get the humor in it, and the subtle jab at my scientific leanings. I really do. ;)
Not really, a jab at you, per se, I just point out when common wisdom or sayings are used to back up an argument, they make poor tools, because they can easily be wrong.
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orcishgamer: Not really, a jab at you, per se, I just point out when common wisdom or sayings are used to back up an argument, they make poor tools, because they can easily be wrong.
P'shaw....and piffle poff I say! But honestly I hear that saying so often that I tried to use it in some manner, if albeit a joking one.