Well, yea. Probably ones that almost nobody plays, so there's no point for scene groups to compete on who'll crack them first.

My method of avoiding DRM is to buy the console version or get a non- DRM from GoG, I wont pay more I will just avoid the release.

I believe you can get drm free games from gamersgate by some method of quitting the installer, if I wanted I would use something like that, but the bottom line is that I will not have a game that insists I have an online connection to validate its veracity.

Manual codes are fine, but if it needs some form of online ID, its a no-no for me.

EDIT : To explain a bit, Steam buggered up dead island for me on two occasions, I have since re-bought my Steam games (except Amnesia for obvious reasons) on consoles (360), I will never buy a game that needs to be activated on Steam or Origin, I was going to buy Amalure in Gamestop yesterday, but apparently its an origin activated game.

I am probably pissing against the wind, but as online activation becomes more prevalent, I will buy less PC games.

I think a better question would be "How heavily discounted does a heavily DRM-ed game have to be for me to consider buying it?" In my case, the answer would be "very." If I'm going to be buying a game, I generally plan on keeping that game (more or less) forever. So an intrusive scheme or any sort of server authentication is going to massively devalue a game for me.

I won't pay any extra for DRM free games. I just won't buy a game that has DRM I dislike. Don't even accept free games that have it (I've been offered a few). They couldn't even pay me to accept it (unless it's like a million bucks or somethin).

There was nearly an exception for Civ5. If I could have paid $10 more for a steam free version I would have (I did consider buying the game, then destroying the disks in a pagan like ritual before downloading a cracked version thats steam free. But I didn't, not even for Civ. So my preoccupation of the franchise ended with Civ4.

I don't think I'll reinstall Civ4 on my next PC due to it's DRM. The CD check has been patched out. But you gotta install the other DRM so the damage is already done. To uninstall all of Civ4 one must regedit or reformat. There is a Civ4 Complete version which is advertised to be DRM free. But I think 2k and take-two are a bunch of dirty dicks so I won't be rebuying the game. Though I might rebuy it if it was on GOG. Maybe.

So it depends. But really, I see the industry reacting to gamers vocalized dislike of DRM. I'm gonna stick to my guns and avoid that crap. No Money for those publishers and distributors. All the money to the good guys. Let the bad guys die or change.

Doesn't really make sense to have to pay extra money for no DRM, like having no DRM is somehow a premium service.

I'm not willing to pay extra for no DRM above what the game reasonably is worth.

You do realize that consoles of today themselves are just other forms of DRM. So it's not really better, just different. Although in some case I'd agree that console games may end up with better DRM than some PC versions. How odd. Anyway...

Nope. Unfortunately, for me, these days price wins out. And I only play on this computer anyway, so I've never really had an issue with DRM. If I think something is a good price, I will buy it.

Pretty much this. If I think about it, I have only bought games from Steam when they are reasonably priced for a rental.

I had a retail copy of Assassins Creed and bought it again on GoG for the DRM free version, so I'd say that I would be willing to pay a little more on GoG when presented with a steam offer and a GoG offer for example.

Currently Assassins Creed is priced at 9.99$ on GoG if you also wanted to get HOMMV. It's not expensive considering the release date of the game and the bonus content offered. Not to mention both games come with lot's of great bonus content.

I think the point he was trying to make is that console games dont need online activation. You can play offline as much as you want, even if you have never ever connected your PS3 to the internet at all. And yeah, this is a valid point, DRM on consoles is much less intrusive. You dont need to tie a game to your account, which is a pretty good thing.

However, there are a few Capcom titles on PSN that have an always online DRM. But these are very rare. I can only think of Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 with this DRM right now.

No, I'm talking couldn't be cracked, as oppposed to haven't bothered being cracked, I'm pretty sure I'm right athough I couldn't tell you which ones.

Unless the game has a good reason to require DRM-like measures (ex: multiplayer-heavy games), I have a hard time standing them now.

DVDs used to be ok, but now I'm realizing how much space they take and I just don't want the bulk. Digital all the way for anything that can be distributed digitally pls.

I work on both partitions on my computer (even Windows), so I like to keep crapware to a minimal.

This includes using a lean antivirus, no obscure third party apps unless they come heavily recommended and certainly no ressource hoging, potentially unstable process meant to enforce someone else's right on my machine.

I HATE apps that are unnecessarily designed to get started as soon as my machine boots and constantly run in the background.

And being able to play offline is important to me. In general, I like to be connected to the internet only when I need to be connected to the internet, otherwise I take my computer offline and this includes when I play games in single-player.

it's less of how much more I will pay for DRM free, 'cause I simply don't buy DRM constricted titles.

Ubisoft offers few titles that I'm interested in on a gameplay level, and I'll never buy/install another game that mandates the Steam client to play; outside of those two I find most other DRM forms to be either benign (Origin / simple CD key checks) or obsolete (Starforce / Impulse).

... and even then I can't think of a single title in recent memory that I couldn't live without, I do most of my videogame shopping based off of simple impulse or nostalgia (most everything I buy on GOG never actually gets played, but I still buy 'em up for the simple pleasure of re-owning titles that I have misplaced over the years).

so I guess the answer for me is that I will pay 100% more for a DRM free (well lets be honest: steam free since most everything else is redundant) version of something.

But let's say a game is discounted to $5 on Steam that you could buy for $6 on GOG. Would you buy the GOG version for DRM reasons, or would buy the Steam version to save a $1?


I've come to realize that I will pay a few extra dollars, upwards to about $4 or $5 if it's a game I really care about and will want to backup for the long term. I want to own my games as a product rather than rent them as a service. I feel like when GOG is removing DRM from an older product, I am paying for the game as a product and the DRM removal as a service and I will sometimes repurchase games I have that require a disc check or something (I hate having to have the disc checked everytime I play, though I can often find a patch for this). Now that they are selling new games though, I think I won't want to pay as much of a premium because I feel like it puts publishers in a position where they can add DRM to protect themselves, and then charge me extra to take it out. That just rubs me the wrong way since the DRM was never needed by me to begin with.

If a game is "uncracked" it is usually a very unpopular or bad game. Pubs themselves have stated that the DRM only has to work "the first few days" to be considered a success.

What I meant ealier isn't that I'm using cracks regularly nowadays (because all internet related DRMs currently don't cause any problems for me) but that I'm not afraid that I won't be able to play my games in the future.Then I could use cracks to get them playing againg, if and that is a bif IF, the DRM makes them unplayable.