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fronzelneekburm: @thuey

You really thought your post in the Hatoful Boyfriend release thread was such an unparalleled work of genius that it merited its own thread?
No, but I regret posting it IN the Hatoful Boyfriend thread because I did not contribute to it. It wasn't talking about Hatoful Boyfriend, so it had no business being there.
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monkeydelarge: It's impossible to please everyone. And that is why there is no point in trying to.
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Emob78: Apparently not. I couldn't even post that basic, philosophical point without it being picked to death. Damn, even a neutral position is extreme now days.
There is no such thing as a neutral position...because "you are either with us or against us"... What I mean is, just by being neutral, you are seen as a traitor against humanity(or against gaming or against whatever) by many groups of people in this world. They feel that if you don't oppose or support something as strongly as they do, then you must be a bad person or a potential threat.
Post edited September 04, 2014 by monkeydelarge
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fronzelneekburm: @thuey

You really thought your post in the Hatoful Boyfriend release thread was such an unparalleled work of genius that it merited its own thread?
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thuey: No, but I regret posting it IN the Hatoful Boyfriend thread because I did not contribute to it. It wasn't talking about Hatoful Boyfriend, so it had no business being there.
Makes sense. So, as to the points you brought up:

1) I wouldn't really expect much discussion of substance from a release thread within an hour of the game being put up. I mean, what are people going to talk about? "Hey guise, bought the game, downloading now! Diz is going to be awesum!"

2) Most of the complaining is simply people being frustrated. Most people, I guess, expected Galaxy to be revealed rather than major revamps being done on the site itself. I admit that I've done my fair bit of bitching about it, but I don't do it because I take delight in telling GOG that they screwed something up, on the contrary. I really want GOG to succeed (as do most people on these forums, I would assume) and the last week just felt like such a huge step backwards. And I think it's a good thing that GOG is willing to give users the opportunity to vent their frustration, rather than trying to silence them, no matter how annoying the complaining gets.

PS: Gotta admit, I was getting kind of sick of the old "This is neither good NOR old!"-routine in release threads. Brace yourself for "This is neither good NOR old NOR a GAME!" in the future!
Post edited September 04, 2014 by fronzelneekburm
Meh. Just another rage post. The OP is just a common internet troll. STFU? GTFO? What is this? Steam forums? Have people here degenerated so much that they now resort to using the acronyms which are the most overused in conversations of internet trolls? Preposterous!


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thuey: This is a repost, since this needs to be said, and I should follow my own advice:

GOGers, STFU and GTFO.

I'm sick of the constant flood of "This isn't what I want!", "Wahh 50 cent difference!", "Where's my free goods for new games that every other site sells for money?" in every release thread.

What if someone IS interested in a game/movie? They have to wade through your 90% garbage in order to get the 10% of ON-TOPIC posts.

You want your opinion to be heard. Fine, start a thread instead of polluting threads that exist for people who care. I personally hope that this past month's activity will resonate to the GOG staff, and they'll start moderating threads.

GOGers DO have a right to protest their opinion.
GOGers SHOULD NOT have a right to ruin every gaming discussion with their personal vendettas.

GOG has some of the coolest people posting on these forums, but they also have some of the worst.
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monkeydelarge: Your post is no different than the posts you are condemning as garbage... Just pointing that out. Everyone wants what they want. You want a forum where people calmly discuss movies and games. But that is just you or a small percentage of people... This forum is not here to cater to you or people like you. It's here for everyone. So if you can't accept that then why don't you STFU and GTFO? The world doesn't revolve around thuey...
Here, have a +1.
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Emob78: Stay the same way forever and people accuse you of being inflexible and lacking creativity. Change and innovate and you're accused of betraying your roots and forgetting what made you great.

You really can't win.
You, sir, deserve applause!
Post edited September 04, 2014 by HijacK
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fronzelneekburm: 1) I wouldn't really expect much discussion of substance from a release thread within an hour of the game being put up. I mean, what are people going to talk about? "Hey guise, bought the game, downloading now! Diz is going to be awesum!"
You have to keep in mind that, by the time a game is released here at GOG, it's usually been around for a few weeks, months, or in the case of a classic game even for many years. So, yes, in most cases there is plenty to talk about. Theoretically speaking.
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Emob78: Stay the same way forever and people accuse you of being inflexible and lacking creativity. Change and innovate and you're accused of betraying your roots and forgetting what made you great.

You really can't win.
Well said you deserve some applause.
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mistermumbles: Cheese, cheese for everyone! Have some delectable Brie! You like? Of course you do!
I'll take 7 grains of Goat.
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CharlesGrey: Lately it seems whatever the GOG staff do, there's always going to be whining and moaning on the forums. Doesn't matter if it's a big or minor thing, perhaps even something which seems like a positive change -- No matter what, there's always a group of people complaining about it, starting up petitions and virtual lynch mobs. GOG just can't win. I feel sorry for the staff members who have to deal with all of this.
I beg to differ. Some people (let's agree that's not everyone) have issues with the visual changes. I personally preferred the old look BUT I strongly miss the logo. Now it's in their (gog's) interest to get critics and pull insight from it (not from everything obviously).

Although the forum is not only buzzing about visual aspect. We are talking 'covert' regional pricing, missing features, visual glitches, lacking support, 35 games 'leaving the ship' .... so just stopping the thinking to 'people are just whining because they dislike the looks' fall a bit short on the insightful scale. I understand it can be annoying if you just stumble on all that all of a sudden, but don't be hasty judging things.
Post edited September 04, 2014 by Potzato
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Emob78: Stay the same way forever and people accuse you of being inflexible and lacking creativity. Change and innovate and you're accused of betraying your roots and forgetting what made you great.

You really can't win.
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GaminggUy45: Well said you deserve some applause.
No. Stop the applause. I was comment privileged and forgot to check them at the door. My Cis-male fingers were oppressive as they hit my multi-ethnic keyboard with their racist, colonial power typing. I would have deleted the comment, but my 3 other headmates voted together that it was ok, so long as the words were not phrased in a manner that might offend any vegans or trans-spatial alien furries out there.
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CharlesGrey: Lately it seems whatever the GOG staff do, there's always going to be whining and moaning on the forums. Doesn't matter if it's a big or minor thing, perhaps even something which seems like a positive change -- No matter what, there's always a group of people complaining about it, starting up petitions and virtual lynch mobs. GOG just can't win. I feel sorry for the staff members who have to deal with all of this.
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Potzato: I beg to differ. Some people (let's agree that's not everyone) have issues with the visual changes. I personally preferred the old look BUT I strongly miss the logo. Now it's in their (gog's) interest to get critics and pull insight from it (not from everything obviously).

Although the forum is not only buzzing about visual aspect. We are talking 'covert' regional pricing, missing features, visual glitches, lacking support, 35 games 'leaving the ship' .... so just stopping the thinking to 'people are just whining because they dislike the looks' fall a bit short on the insightful scale. I understand it can be annoying if you just stumble on all that all of a sudden, but don't be hasty judging things.
I wasn't even talking about the reactions to the website and service redesign, specifically. As I said in my initial post, some people here will complain about literally everything GOG does, and I've been observing that kind of behaviour for at least 6 months or so, not just recently.

As for the problems you mentioned, those are to be expected due to the redesign. I'm sure they're doing their best to make everything run smoothly again. The only thing that personally bothers me to some extent, is the loss of those games you mentioned, but you can't fully blame GOG for that either. And who knows, maybe GOG and the publisher(s) will come to an agreement eventually, and the games will return here.
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CharlesGrey: I wasn't even talking about the reactions to the website and service redesign, specifically. As I said in my initial post, some people here will complain about literally everything GOG does, and I've been observing that kind of behaviour for at least 6 months or so, not just recently.
Oh, ok yes, many elements of our lot doesn't seem to appreciate surprise. I myself have issues with that :)

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CharlesGrey: I'm sure they're doing their best to make everything run smoothly again.
The way I see that is that those changes are kinda presented as a 'trade-off' but so far the communication on that has been lacking at best in my opinion (given the amount of changes). That's matter for voicing concern.
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Emob78: Stay the same way forever and people accuse you of being inflexible and lacking creativity. Change and innovate and you're accused of betraying your roots and forgetting what made you great.

You really can't win.
solution : stop giving crap about what people thinks, wont live forever, dont need to care forever
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Emob78: Stay the same way forever and people accuse you of being inflexible and lacking creativity. Change and innovate and you're accused of betraying your roots and forgetting what made you great.

You really can't win.
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djranis: solution : stop giving crap about what people thinks, wont live forever, dont need to care forever
People have been telling me that for years. Might listen to it one of these days... maybe.
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monkeydelarge: You want a forum where people calmly discuss movies and games. But that is just you or a small percentage of people... This forum is not here to cater to you or people like you. It's here for everyone.
If you're defending the fact that the bulk of any announcement/release thread is full of unrelated ranting as a good thing, then I really have nothing to say.

For instance, with every gaming documentary movie release, I think there's a point where people are no longer giving any information ("These aren't the movies I like!" Well duh... documentaries in general don't have mainstream appeal.) You defend the right of free speech, which is fair, in theory. But as far as actually building or encouraging a community, there is such a thing as destructive posts.
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monkeydelarge: You want a forum where people calmly discuss movies and games. But that is just you or a small percentage of people... This forum is not here to cater to you or people like you. It's here for everyone.
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thuey: If you're defending the fact that the bulk of any announcement/release thread is full of unrelated ranting as a good thing, then I really have nothing to say.

For instance, with every gaming documentary movie release, I think there's a point where people are no longer giving any information ("These aren't the movies I like!" Well duh... documentaries in general don't have mainstream appeal.) You defend the right of free speech, which is fair, in theory. But as far as actually building or encouraging a community, there is such a thing as destructive posts.
It is a good thing because even though those posts are useless to people looking for information about the game, people still felt the need to make them. And if people felt the need to make such posts, I'm sure they have their reasons. Maybe they wanted to convince themselves that people care about their thoughts(wanted to feel special). Maybe they wanted to kill some time. Maybe they needed to vent.. It's not healthy to bottle things up after all. The only destructive posts are the posts coming from trolls. All other posts, no matter how annoying to some of us, do no real damage to a community.
Post edited September 05, 2014 by monkeydelarge