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General discussion (archive)GOG Mafia #4 - Nightmare of the Household Appliances(793 posts)(793 posts)
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Posted May 11, 2011
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Rodzaju: Chill, I'm just messing with you.

I thought you were poking fun at Vitek, so decided to return the favour.
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nmillar: Hey, if someone makes an accusation against me, I'm going to defend myself. :-)
Touche
Posted May 11, 2011
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nmillar: *snip*
You did all that math to disprove my theory which I presented in RVS? Wow, I wonder why you went into such things when I was not attacking you on such premise.
Was it because of Popinjay? Or because my post no. 117?

You really counted those? I thought you were making them up. :-)
Posted May 11, 2011
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nmillar: *snip*
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Vitek: You did all that math to disprove my theory which I presented in RVS? Wow, I wonder why you went into such things when I was not attacking you on such premise.
Was it because of Popinjay? Or because my post no. 117?

You really counted those? I thought you were making them up. :-)
I was bored. :P
Posted May 11, 2011
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nmillar: I was bored. :P
Being bored has its uses then :) More so when this should result in the probability argument being less popular, even more as in reality one can't conclude anything from it.

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Rodzaju: Red_Baron
A listener. He makes a lot of posts, to show that he is interested in the game, but he takes in a lot more information that he gives out. I think he is cautious of both me & popinjay. I think he voted to push pop into better explaining himself.
I am aware of him, but he's not on my radar.

Snip.
Nice list :) I don't entirely agree with you whole list, except for those who have only posted very very few posts - Really hoping to see more to them. Don't really agree with our take on GhostQlyph, but have yet to form a opinion on her based on this game.

(In regard of the first quote, whom beside you have actually given out information about ourself personally? :) Several of us posted theories, which I would call giving out information :D and kinda the only thing making sense to say this early - so besides those minimal posts (mostly Pazzer) as you yourself mentioned, I would say we all have been giving out information. And also very happy to see that Popinjay has reacted.

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Popinjay: So there have been some issue with what I have done in this game.

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Nice to see some more reasoning, kinda what I was hoping for - although you haven't cleared yourself of my suspicion yet, this is a good step toward it (Although its still mostly denials and not really reasoning, but good with a reaction none the less). I am also still fairly sure of you being a third party.

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Rodzaju: And can someone please answer the question I posed in post 94?
If you mean the question about why "attacks" melts away when you don't defend yourself. Well I gather is due to the fact that being overly sensitive about supecision and getting very defensice was what gave you the scummy feeling.. but when you didn't continue this bahavoiur and other posts came up, yours was left somewhat in the background, although your reaction have not been forgotten ;) (Though I am getting a higher town reading on you now).

So well, my current list of suspects would be this (keep in mind this is solely a personal list, so some is just random order if I find them equal and its ):

Popinjay (reasons above and previous posts)

Rodzaju (reaction as mentioned before)

The rest is in a random bungle:
Nmillar: Although getting a town read on him, he said some interesting things
Vitek: Town read so far, but he is a master of disguise.
TwilightBard: Also getting a town read from and doesn't stick out much.

I withhold the rest as I want to know more about them (those rare posters).

Hope I got everything I actually wanted to say in, feel fair sleepy :)
Posted May 11, 2011
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elbaz: Hello, I'm inactive, I'm being prodded!
This is the game's first official prod, as well as yours. Now get to it!

While I'm here, have a votecount, on the sink.

The "Probability and Defense, the sure way to finding scum!" votecount

Votecount:
GhostQlyph – 1 – eyeball226
Rodzaju - 1 - Vitek
Popinjay - 3 - TwilightBard, Red_Baron, Rodzaju
eyeball226 - 1 - pazzer

A total of 6 votes.

Popinjay is closest to lynch at L-4.
Not voting is Popinjay, andy433uk, elbaz, GhostQlyph, enterprise2004, nmillar
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Posted May 11, 2011
To Popinjay: My honest question is simply, why? Why jump on two other votes without having much of a case. I'm willing to put the nmillar vote off to the side for now, but you keep going after Rodzaju without really making a case that's yours. It looks from my standpoint that you're jumping on people hoping to push a speedy lynch.

Rodzaju: I have to wonder why my questioning puts me on the scum radar? This is scum hunting, this is what we need to do as town. The longer Day 1 is and the more information we get out in the open the better chance we'll have of trapping scum when they slip up.

As for the quiet people...yeah, they need to come in more, but without more information (post count and content, voting record...) there's not much we can do in Day 1 to really point a finger.
Posted May 11, 2011
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TwilightBard: As for the quiet people...yeah, they need to come in more, but without more information (post count and content, voting record...) there's not much we can do in Day 1 to really point a finger.
This is a good point; an obvious mafia tactic would be to try and stay out of the limelight, which is why pazzer, elbaz and andy433uk are currently riding high on my suspects list. Rodzaju is still leading the pack by a long way though.

Other than the early bandwagon hopping displayed by Popinjay, I'm not sure why he has been the subject of so much attention (could be put down to inexperience), but I'll keep my eye on how that situation develops too.

Several people have jumped on Rodzaju already for his non-electrical claim, and this does make him stand out over everyone else. I'd rather keep him alive for an assured lynch later in the game if it is established that the mafia are non-electrical items, but in the interest of moving the day along I'll vote Rodzaju.
Posted May 11, 2011
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TwilightBard: Snip...
Rodzaju: I have to wonder why my questioning puts me on the scum radar? This is scum hunting, this is what we need to do as town. The longer Day 1 is and the more information we get out in the open the better chance we'll have of trapping scum when they slip up.

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I agree we need to hunt.
I was referring to the 'secret files' I can see you building up.
As I said, maybe you will present these once you have a clear case.
But you may also use them for secret night activities.
That is the point that puts you on my radar.
Then again, maybe the files are simply in my imagination.
Posted May 11, 2011
Unvote eyeball226
Posted May 11, 2011
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nmillar: Other than the early bandwagon hopping displayed by Popinjay, I'm not sure why he has been the subject of so much attention (could be put down to inexperience), but I'll keep my eye on how that situation develops too.
My big thing with the bandwagon hopping that Popinjay displayed, is that when people started questioning it he immediately unvoted instead of explaining why he was voting Rodzaju to begin with. He never built a real case, but keeps insisting that Rodzaju is mafia and in fact one of his earlier posts after he initially voted was to push for a quick lynch because he claimed that Rodzaju was scum. Again this was without reasoning or anything to back him up besides that Rodzaju was trying to point me, him, and Vitek as possible scum.
Posted May 11, 2011
It seems we've all (Me included) been casting aspersions unneccesarily :)
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Posted May 11, 2011
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Rodzaju: It seems we've all (Me included) been casting aspersions unneccesarily :)
Haha, unfortunately I think you may have outed yourself already, but we'll see what your full claim is once you reach L-2.
Posted May 11, 2011
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Rodzaju: It seems we've all (Me included) been casting aspersions unneccesarily :)
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nmillar: Haha, unfortunately I think you may have outed yourself already, but we'll see what your full claim is once you reach L-2.
Is thatthe point at which people customarily claim?
Posted May 11, 2011
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Rodzaju: Is that the point at which people customarily claim?
Depends, not claiming exacts might be a good idea if town stands to lose a lot from lynching one or just basically claiming - but whenever the claim takes place is fully up to the person, although not really advisable unless there is no other way. Outing oneself in case of a power role is not really a good idea.

On a short note: it appears some "y"'s have gone missing from my last post, so in most cases the word should have been yours. I was apparently too sleepy for typing them :P
Posted May 11, 2011
Pazzer:

We've seen a random vote & then that vote removed.
Anything else to say?

VL78
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