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Posted August 04, 2012
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ashout: I ask becuase there was this law passed a while back, that said you could break the copy write and keep copywrited software on your computer for archival purposes as long as the media was originally on a machine that is no longer available.

so i'm thinking, sega genesis, dos games, all that is open game at this point. maybe i miss interpreted the law. i'll look it up and post it for you later.
this is from the website www.gamespot.com

Billington ruled that for games for machines which are no longer available, the copy-protection controls may be bypassed for "archival purposes." He also added that games with copy-protection that require "dongles" that were damaged and could not be replaced were also allowed to circumvent the copy-protection systems. Dongles are hardware devices that users have to physically connect to their machine to authenticate a game and allow them to play it--they first came out in the '80s and have since fallen out of popular use.
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cogadh: You are misinterpreting that ruling. If you own the original software and the copy protection is preventing you from using that software, you can legally break that copy protection to both use and archive that software. However, the key part of it is you must already legally own a copy of that software. You cannot legally download an archive copy of something you don't already own. Doing that is still a textbook case of software piracy.
but you could already break the copy protection on software you owned. i thought.
Posted August 05, 2012
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cogadh: You are misinterpreting that ruling. If you own the original software and the copy protection is preventing you from using that software, you can legally break that copy protection to both use and archive that software. However, the key part of it is you must already legally own a copy of that software. You cannot legally download an archive copy of something you don't already own. Doing that is still a textbook case of software piracy.
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ashout: but you could already break the copy protection on software you owned. i thought.
It was, until the DMCA made it illegal. That ruling was a recently enacted exception to the DMCA that made it legal again.
Posted August 05, 2012
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cogadh: It was, until the DMCA made it illegal. That ruling was a recently enacted exception to the DMCA that made it legal again.
Wasn't the whole DMCA repealed? I know it was planned some time in the past.
Posted August 05, 2012
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ashout: anybody miss the old sega genesis days?
My first contact with Sega Megadrive was a bit negative. I read about the console for the first time from some gaming magazine, where they were showing pictures of some early games for it etc.

All I could think of was fearing whether it will make my beloved Amiga 500 obsolete (at least technically). I feel it didn't, but thankfully PC later did. Megadrive was the first dedicated (post-NES) gaming console that I felt would threaten my beloved home computer. Before that it was just NES which to me was "ok they have Super Mario Bros which is definititely a good game, but other than that, pfffft...".
Post edited August 05, 2012 by timppu
Posted August 05, 2012
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ashout: anybody miss the old sega genesis days?
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timppu: My first contact with Sega Megadrive was a bit negative. I read about the console for the first time from some gaming magazine, where they were showing pictures of some early games for it etc.

All I could think of was fearing whether it will make my beloved Amiga 500 obsolete (at least technically). I feel it didn't, but thankfully PC later did. Megadrive was the first dedicated (post-NES) gaming console that I felt would threaten my beloved home computer. Before that it was just NES which to me was "ok they have Super Mario Bros which is definititely a good game, but other than that, pfffft...".
they have final fantasy, secret of mana, earthbound, others too! i guess you didn't play many rpgs back then?

And that's going too far, not allowing people to bypass copy protection on software they already own! if you paid for it, you should be able to use it, even if you lose your cd key! rediculas!
Post edited August 05, 2012 by ashout
Posted August 05, 2012
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ashout: anybody miss the old sega genesis days?
No, but I miss Genesis with Peter Gabriel.
Posted August 05, 2012
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SimonG: Wasn't the whole DMCA repealed? I know it was planned some time in the past.
Nope. In fact, I think the most recent action on it was that it was held up/re-affirmed in a court case challenging it. There is a movement on to amend it with some consumer protection language, but I don't think that has actually gone anywhere yet.
Posted August 05, 2012
i gotta admit, the snes had some great rpgs on it too. shining in the darkness and phantasy star just arn't the same as legend of mana, or final fantasy.

still, the genesis had sonic!
Posted August 05, 2012
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ashout: i gotta admit, the snes had some great rpgs on it too. shining in the darkness and phantasy star just arn't the same as legend of mana, or final fantasy.

still, the genesis had sonic!
Great RPGs on the Genesis? One word: Shadowrun.
Posted August 05, 2012
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ashout: i gotta admit, the snes had some great rpgs on it too. shining in the darkness and phantasy star just arn't the same as legend of mana, or final fantasy.

still, the genesis had sonic!
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cogadh: Great RPGs on the Genesis? One word: Shadowrun.
thats not in my genesis collection i got for genesis. i'll have to look it up.
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