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Simcity is the devil...Fox, like all news companies can tell no lies, and is completely unbiased and agenda free...They are like grandma, you must devour it as you would her cookies.
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Yum! ;)

*keels over and dies :O

DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME (it may cause gastric distress)
I haven't played any of the games they mentioned, so they could have tried to enlighten me. They failed. There may be a valid point that they could have made, but as soon as they said "liberal agenda", I knew they were going to push a "conservative agenda". Like Vestin said though, to have even a 1 hour in-depth discussion, let alone 5, would bore everyone.

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Mnemon: In terms of exergy efficiency renewals outperform anything, naturally - simply as there's less steps between the source of power and output in form of electric energy.
This is my viewpoint as well. When I have a discussion with someone who is interested in renewables, I like to compare it to money changing hands. The less times it has to change hands to get to its' destination, the less money is going to disappear into various peoples' pockets along the way.
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stoicsentry: Going to have to disagree with you all. These games do sound like green religion propaganda.
Only if you take what Fox News says about these games or their respective target audiences at face value. I'll grant you that this doesn't provide quite much amusement as Fox's Mass Effect screwup, but it provides a few chuckles nonetheless.
Virtual Polar Bears - The next big meme
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wodmarach: Your kidding right? The radiation exposure of the common man is 3-100x! greater from a coal plant than a nuclear plant. Infact you get more radiation from eating a banana than you do living within 50 miles of a nuclear plant
Lets talk carbon then, you want to create what is basicly a giant rock soda bottle under huge pressure(carbon sequstration) and hope it's never accidently breached releasing all that CO2(etc) I can just see the headlines now "5000 die at drilling operation from asphyxiation police suspect foul play... In other news an unexpected spike in greenhouse gases has been noted it is not known how this will effect global temperatures"
Annual "normal" radiation exposure for most people is around 310 - 350 millirems. Average annual exposure from living near a coal plant: around 0.03 millirems. Average annual exposure from living near a nuke plant: 0.01 millirems. Sure, it's three times that which you would get from a nuke plant, but as long as we are talking about sources of radiation exposure like bananas... one chest x-ray: 10 millirems; using a computer with a CRT monitor: 1 millirem annually; smoking half a pack of cigarettes a day: 18 millirems annually; having false teeth: 0.07 millirems annually; annual exposure from simply being inside your house, regardless of how close you are to any power plant: 200 millirems. Talking about the radiation produced by a coal fired plant as if it somehow horrifically worse than a nuke plant is, as I said, completely moot in the larger picture.

As for your thoughts on carbon sequestration, now you're just starting to sound hysterical. There are absolutely no facts to back up your claims in the slightest, just fear-mongering sound bites produced by the likes of Fox News. The reality is, we've already been using this as a method of pumping oil out of the ground for for nearly 40 years without any significant problems. The processes behind carbon sequestration actually occur naturally and the only time those natural processes fail is just before a volcano erupts. As long as we don't make the monumentally stupid choice of trying to do it in a volcanically active area, or better yet, make the much smarter choice of only doing under the deep ocean (another thing we've already been doing for over a decade) where the pressure of the water would act as a natural backup in the event of a catastrophic tectonic event releasing it from the ground, it is infinitely safer than anything we currently have available for nuclear waste. However, as I said, carbon sequestration is only one method of getting rid of the CO2 anyway. There are about 15 different other methods, all either already in use or being tested right now that are just as safe and reliable, they just aren't used all over the world or even consistently in any single industry or country.
Post edited September 08, 2011 by cogadh