Yeah, I get the "why". Just as I get the "why" of affirmative action. But again, I don't think either is just.

I'd say "Let 'em try to sell it." People would hate the company and they'd likely fold. Anyone buying and flaunting such would likely be scorned by most people here. Problem solves itself.

But you are right: There would be mass outcry, and some of our politicians would likely attempt to pass such legislation.

Fun fact: We have (or at least have had... I don't keep tabs on them) Nazi and Confederate parties here. We allow them as a matter of freedom, but few pay them any attention other than the occasional mockery. They've got a snowball's chance in Hell of winning even a local election.

Anyway, just to clarify for any onlookers, the intent here is not whether Germany or the United States as nations or a people or a society is "better" (people suck in general) but rather debating our different takes on certain basic freedoms.

No worries. Half of my ramblings are incoherent, too. ;-)

So back to education and race and all that...

It seems some folks think we aren't spending enough or doing enough to "fix" education in the US, which I'm not debating one way or another. But it was also pointed out early in the thread, with anecdotal evidence, that culture plays a role in the matter. So I ask the question:

How do we "fix" education to get better results when there are significant parts of the population, for cultural reasons, that don't do well regardless of how much effort is put into it, simply because it is not particularly important to that culture?

We can't force, legislate, cajole, threaten, or spend our way to making everyone care about taking advantage of the education opportunities presented to them. If you want to "fix" education, "fix" the underlying culture first. But when you try to do that, the culture is going to fight that effort. The culture won't change unless it wants to, but we certainly can't legislate that to happen.