so...... what am I supposed to see? :P

Spoiler! This is a bad, bad spoiler! :p

Thanks :)

Simple things like getting the damn colours right. Might not sound like a big deal until you realise that it's representing exactly the same hex code colour as two different shades and no other browsers buggers up on something so simple.

There are also other simple things like getting CSS boxes centred. No other browser makes that a chore. IE does.

There's more. So much more that I can't be bothered to remember. But really I don't understand why you insist on defending the what is by far the weakest option on the market when the alternatives are abundant. I know you'll fanboy anything MS (except GFWL - but hey even fanboys have their limits, right?), but I think you need to add IE to the list of things that MS doesn't really do very well. Or at least stop trying to defend it when it's criticised.

I'm just a bit puzzled as how every time there is a Blizzard/Microsoft discussion going on kavazovangel goes all zealot.

Nothing is perfect and really there is no need to rationalize everything this companies do/make.

I agree. IE has never cared for standards, otherwise developers wouldn't have to come with CSS hacks for every version of IE that has come out ever. Most people that have done web development must be familiar with stuff like this:

selector {
prop: value; /* real browsers */
_prop: value; /* ie6 */
*prop: value; /* ie6 ie7 */
prop: value\9; /* ie8 */
}
@media all and (min-width:0) {
#element { color:pink \0/; } /* IE9 */
}

@kavazovangel: Do you think that any sane person would do stuff like that by their own choice? Nobody in their right mind would do that to themselves. Hacks like those exist because IE has always been crap.

BTW, when I call them an MS fanboy, this is something that has been established over many, many MS-related posts. That wasn't some ad hominem. It's just a statement of fact.

The only reason why IE exists at all today is because Microsoft released it and furthermore they made it an un-removable part of Windows for... about a decade, wasn't it?

In any case, had IE been released by anyone else it would have been forgotten within a week.

I know, I'm familiar with his preference of MS products and that is his choice. Heck, I'm a Nintendo fanboy so I won't judge people over which company they root for. What bothers me is that anybody that claims to be familiar with web development would defend IE. That's just unheard of. IMO even GFWL has more redeeming qualities than IE.

If GFWL is designed to fuck with the end user then it's the stuff of legend. As far as I can tell, that's exactly what DRM is meant to do. So yeah, in a way, it does have redeeming qualities. Albeit the kind that Kotick would be more inclined to call "redeeming" than I.

Apologies if I look like a fanboy. I don't get absolutely anything out of defending IE, its not like I own it or something.

What browser one uses is one's preference, and this we cannot discuss about, since everybody is unique and has different tastes. Hey, I use Firefox just as much as IE. I was talking from a technical point of view.
Posting code related to an obsolete browser is unneeded. Regardless of the usage of IE6 / IE7 and IE8... IE9 is the current version, and I was talking about that one.
Nah, because until the release of Firefox 2, there wasn't anything better out there on the market.
Noooooooo, purge that GfWL thing with fire! Or use black magic to destroy it! :D