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StingingVelvet: PC elitism powers activate!
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Still, I'd be impressed if the levels remain as large on consoles. So many games wind up being little more than shoe boxes because apparently that's all that the consoles can handle (without heavy loading times at least).
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Navagon: Still, I'd be impressed if the levels remain as large on consoles. So many games wind up being little more than shoe boxes because apparently that's all that the consoles can handle (without heavy loading times at least).
Even with cutting out geometry like that I would bet they still will have trimmed the level sizes down. I can't imagine that tank level fitting on the Xbox no matter how many trees they remove, for example.
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StingingVelvet: Even with cutting out geometry like that I would bet they still will have trimmed the level sizes down. I can't imagine that tank level fitting on the Xbox no matter how many trees they remove, for example.
When you think about it though, a lot of levels in the game were about that size. It's just that the nature of the terrain meant that normally you didn't see as much of it all in one go, as you did with the tank level.

But that is a good point though. Most other levels could be broken up into smaller levels, but that one probably couldn't.
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Navagon: When you think about it though, a lot of levels in the game were about that size. It's just that the nature of the terrain meant that normally you didn't see as much of it all in one go, as you did with the tank level.

But that is a good point though. Most other levels could be broken up into smaller levels, but that one probably couldn't.
Good point. So they might just divide a lot of levels into loading screens and trim the ones they can't.
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Navagon: When you think about it though, a lot of levels in the game were about that size. It's just that the nature of the terrain meant that normally you didn't see as much of it all in one go, as you did with the tank level.

But that is a good point though. Most other levels could be broken up into smaller levels, but that one probably couldn't.
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StingingVelvet: Good point. So they might just divide a lot of levels into loading screens and trim the ones they can't.
Im not going to say they wont be doing that sort of thing here, but size alone doesn't mean something cant fit on a console. Consider Oblivion. The console versions didn't break up the world any more than the PC version did.
Post edited September 14, 2011 by MobiusArcher
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StingingVelvet: Good point. So they might just divide a lot of levels into loading screens and trim the ones they can't.
There was a fair bit of excess. But that was kind of the point. It allowed you to cut your own path in between the points in the map which did almost act as checkpoints (maybe the levels were split up when they started designing them?).

In any case, it's pretty impressive that they're even able to think about doing this. The 360 is very long in the tooth now.
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MobiusArcher: Consider Oblivion. The console versions didn't break up the world any more than the PC version did.
While it's true that Bethesda did manage pretty smooth transitions between the various segments (certainly in comparison with Morrowind, at least), we're talking about two very different engines. The Cryengine, for all its power, is no stranger to loading times.
Post edited September 14, 2011 by Navagon
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MobiusArcher: Im not going to say they wont be doing that sort of thing here, but size alone doesn't mean something cant fit on a console. Consider Oblivion. The console versions didn't break up the world any more than the PC version did.
As navagon said, very different engines with very different ways of loading in content.
Cool. Now they get to experience the awesomeness as well!
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jefequeso: Cool. Now they get to experience the awesomeness as well!
Your weakness in this war disgraces the fuhrer.
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jefequeso: Cool. Now they get to experience the awesomeness as well!
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StingingVelvet: Your weakness in this war disgraces the fuhrer.
:3

Oh, believe me... once Xbots and Playslaves start either a)ripping on the game or b) talking about how much better the console port plays/looks, I'll be the first to attack.

But, for those console gamers who AREN'T a pain in the ass (and I know there are some of you out there!), I am happy for you.
Post edited September 14, 2011 by jefequeso
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jefequeso: Oh, believe me... once Xbots and Playslaves start either a)ripping on the game or b) talking about how much better the console port plays/looks, I'll be the first to attack.
Now Im curious. I have never heard those terms before, and they amuse me greatly. I feel I need to know the full list. What are Nintendo fans called, and and what are PC fans called. Also, what (if anything) is someone who has more than of of them called.
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jefequeso: Oh, believe me... once Xbots and Playslaves start either a)ripping on the game or b) talking about how much better the console port plays/looks, I'll be the first to attack.
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MobiusArcher: Now Im curious. I have never heard those terms before, and they amuse me greatly. I feel I need to know the full list. What are Nintendo fans called, and and what are PC fans called. Also, what (if anything) is someone who has more than of of them called.
hanging around gametrailers.com teaches you some things :3

let's see... I believe I've heard Nintendo fanboys referred to as "Nintendrones." PC gamers... well, to be honest, the people who tend to insult PC gamers aren't very clever. Usually it's just "PC fag" or "PC elitist"

And if you own more than one? YOu're either a guy who owns more than one console but doesn't really brag about it, or you're one of those jerks that starts fanboy threads with "I own all three consoles, but..."
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MobiusArcher: What are Nintendo fans called,
Wiitards?
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MobiusArcher: Now Im curious. I have never heard those terms before, and they amuse me greatly. I feel I need to know the full list. What are Nintendo fans called, and and what are PC fans called. Also, what (if anything) is someone who has more than of of them called.
They're all filthy, filthy creatures! Only the pure shall be respected... only the pure shall be left to populate the world.