GameRager: 1. Yes there is such a thing as abandonware technically. Just because it isn't legal or morally right to most doesn't mean the term and what it applies to doesn't exist. Abandonware=Games for which the rights holders/etc have abandoned attempts at sale for a period of 5+ years and which have little to no chance at ever being resold again in the future. It's a term, and it exists....get used to it, but don't say the term isn't real or applicable to anything.
And no shit they aren't legal to download, but alot of stuff that's illegal people still do and support like marijuana usage/etc. We already know the things we may do are illegal so again stop reminding us of it as it's kinda unnecessary and headache inducing.
2. Software piracy or not imo there's a moral difference between offering games for download that can't be bought new or used anywhere and which haven't been sold in years and aren't likely to ever be sold again over people pirating/offering up newer games for download that people are still making money on and producing. Also some of these sites DO preserve gaming history.....look at how some games on Gog/etc don't have all the extras and artworks/etc because that stuff was lost to the ravages of time. Half the time Gog/etc offer extras it's because they either had them at home or some abandonware site preserved them so that newer generations could experience them and so that they wouldn't be lost forever.
3. Kiss corporate ass much? Sorry, but there's a time to support the law and there's a time to rally against it if alebit for one's own moral reasons......follow your moral compass not a legal bulwark if the legal bulwark is found to be a detriment and hazard to any aspect of culture or society.
1. Sorry, but that is the biggest pile of bullshit I have read on these forums in a long time. The entire concept and definition of abandonware was created by those who were trying to justify their reasons for engaging in software piracy. It is nothing more than a rationalization designed to appease the consciences of both those who supply abandonware and those who download it, nothing more.
If you are going to try and equate abandonware to marijuana usage, you've already lost the fight. Unlike abandonware, marijuana actually has testable and provable legitimate uses beyond the illegal uses so many partake in. Abandonware simply claims to have a legitimate purpose when...
2. The fact is, free illegal downloads are not "software preservation" they are simply piracy. If you want to preserve software, then store your original game disks and materials in a proper manner, don't give it away for free to everyone who is too lazy and cheap to find and buy their own copy (I have never seen an "abandonware" game that I couldn't also find on eBay, Amazon, my local thrift store, etc.). If abandonware sites really wanted to preserve gaming for future generations, they would do the right thing and get permission from the correct rights holder to offer the games for download and if they can't get that, then store the materials until they can. Honestly, the only real software preserver I have found on the internet is GOG, simply because they are actually doing the right thing.
3. Kiss pirate ass much? It is flawed logic like yours that drives publishers to do stupid things like "always on" internet based copy protection that end up hurting everyone else who doesn't feel the need to illegally download games. You are right, there is a time to support the law and then there is a time to follow your own conscience, but do you seriously consider games to be the tent pole of your personal revolution against "the man"? Pick your battles better; there are far worse things going on in this world that we all should be fighting against and there are much better ways to "fight the good fight" than breaking the law.