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Barry_Woodward: Capcom SNES games I'd like to see:

U.N. Squadron
You do know that that's a licensed game, hm? Not to mention Area 88's probably somewhat obscure by this point so it's not like they'd bother trying to revive the license like they're doing with their JoJo fighting game which is more popular and relevant given the new anime series and games.
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Zeewolf: Yeah, but ... is that really such a big "if"?

:)
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Navagon: With the 3DS and Wii U being on a par with Sega's final efforts in terms of third party support, I'd say that it's either going to be a case of them dramatically altering their business model - like Sega did, but not necessarily in the same direction - or they're going to persevere but ultimately go under.

So yeah, not that big an if. But it was many a year after they dropped out of the console market that Sega began emulating their classics.
Isn't the 3DS doing much better than the Vita? I find that people are way too biased against Nintendo to recognize when they are doing fine. People have been saying Nintendo is going out of business for years now. Did you know PC gaming is dying? I heard about it when the PS1 was released so it must be true.
Me as a wii owner can say that most nes snes games are on the wii so dont think so.
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OmegaX: Isn't the 3DS doing much better than the Vita? I find that people are way too biased against Nintendo to recognize when they are doing fine. People have been saying Nintendo is going out of business for years now. Did you know PC gaming is dying? I heard about it when the PS1 was released so it must be true.
Dunno about the Vita, but 3rd party support already seems to be on the wane for the 3DS. It just seems like Nintendo have been floundering a bit since the Wii went from astronomical success to bombing right out the charts. I think they really believed that the casual market that bought the Wii could be sustained. But instead it was just another fad thing as far as a lot of its customers were concerned, as was indicated by the low game to console sales.
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hercufles: Me as a wii owner can say that most nes snes games are on the wii so dont think so.
As long as Nintendo are producing hardware then that's where you're going to find their emulated classics.
Post edited August 19, 2012 by Navagon
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OmegaX: Isn't the 3DS doing much better than the Vita? I find that people are way too biased against Nintendo to recognize when they are doing fine. People have been saying Nintendo is going out of business for years now.
The Vita is not doing well at all, but that doesn't mean that the 3DS is performing anything near what Nintendo wants. It just means that both dedicated gaming handhelds are having trouble.

Back in April, Nintendo posted the first annual loss in 30 _years_. Now they're depending on two things: That the 3DS does better, and that the WiiU is a success. I kinda like the idea of the WiiU, but I doubt it'll be a success. It does not have the simplicity of the Wii, so I don't think it'll have a similar appeal to the casual market. Whereas the hardcore are more interested in whatever Microsoft and Sony does next. They're not going to be wowed by last year's Batman game.

I think the WiiU will start off by selling pretty well, but I think the initial customers will mainly be Nintendo-fans and there's probably not enough of those to sustain the console in the long run.

But that's my theory. I may be wrong. I worry that the next console generation will be a bit shitty in general, with way too much focus on things that aren't games (we've all seen where Microsoft is headed, for instance), so I like the WiiU simply because it seems to be a gaming device first and foremost. But I see no reason to buy one.
Post edited August 19, 2012 by Zeewolf
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Navagon: Dunno about the Vita, but 3rd party support already seems to be on the wane for the 3DS. It just seems like Nintendo have been floundering a bit since the Wii went from astronomical success to bombing right out the charts. I think they really believed that the casual market that bought the Wii could be sustained. But instead it was just another fad thing as far as a lot of its customers were concerned, as was indicated by the low game to console sales.
They could have kept the casual crowd if they kept producing casual games that weren't terrible. But once you had WiiSports or WiiFit and a couple of decent games, there wasn't any reason to buy any more. There was a lot of wasted potential there. Normally shovelware is spread out across a system's lifespan, but the Wii started out super-strong and then got all of its shovelware all at once, which turned off a lot of people who would have otherwise been interested in buying more stuff. Nowadays I just use mine to play the various Lego games, and watch movies on Netflix.
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keeveek: Whatever you want, bro ;D You are really entitled to feel better than me, just like I could give a damn ;D
Don't twist my arguments. I criticized your attempt at justifying piracy here. First, there's no excuse for piracy, especially in such conditions (the games are easily available) i have mentioned. Second, this is not the right forums to do so. You can praise piracy as much as you want on a warez forum. But it is out of place on a site that SELLS games. And yes, you are self-entitled (as your previous posts have already demonstrated), like all pirates.

If you want to discuss something, at least use rational arguments. Twisting mine will not help you convince anyone. It just makes you look like an idiot.


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keeveek: Use more ad personam arguments, it makes you look SMART!

;-)
"You are really entitled to feel better than me"
Hmmmmmmm, all right, so i'm the only one using ad personam arguments. Ok then.

And defending piracy certainly makes you look smarter. Yeah, using other people's work for free is certainly the smartest argument i have ever seen in my entire life. Why pay when we can get it for free? You are a genius. We should just use slaves to make games since developers/publishers don't need our money anyway.
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OmegaX: Isn't the 3DS doing much better than the Vita? I find that people are way too biased against Nintendo to recognize when they are doing fine. People have been saying Nintendo is going out of business for years now. Did you know PC gaming is dying? I heard about it when the PS1 was released so it must be true.
Don't mind the naysayers. People have been saying that consoles are dead since the Atari.
Post edited August 19, 2012 by Neobr10
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Zeewolf: The Vita is not doing well at all, but that doesn't mean that the 3DS is performing anything near what Nintendo wants. It just means that both dedicated gaming handhelds are having trouble.
Hmmm, no. The 3DS is selling better than the first DS did within the same time period. Doesn't look like it has any trouble. And Nintendo is turning a profit on each 3DS sold now, so things will get even better for Nintendo. Not to mention that the games are selling very well too. Many first-party titles passed 1 million copies sold, which is pretty damn impressive for exclusive titles. Super Mario 3D Land was the fastest selling Mario game ever, and so was Mario Kart 7.

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Zeewolf: Back in April, Nintendo posted the first annual loss in 30 _years_. Now they're depending on two things: That the 3DS does better, and that the WiiU is a success.
Not really. Both the N64 and the GC were not that successful but sold well enough to keep Nintendo very strong in the console market.
Post edited August 19, 2012 by Neobr10
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Navagon: With the 3DS and Wii U being on a par with Sega's final efforts in terms of third party support, I'd say that it's either going to be a case of them dramatically altering their business model - like Sega did, but not necessarily in the same direction - or they're going to persevere but ultimately go under.

So yeah, not that big an if. But it was many a year after they dropped out of the console market that Sega began emulating their classics.
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OmegaX: Isn't the 3DS doing much better than the Vita? I find that people are way too biased against Nintendo to recognize when they are doing fine. People have been saying Nintendo is going out of business for years now. Did you know PC gaming is dying? I heard about it when the PS1 was released so it must be true.
i agree with you. last i heard, the wii was doing just fine in the console market.

besides, what do you guys think is going to happen if microsoft gets ANOTHER monopoly, this time on the console market? do you REALLY want playstation out of buisness, and nintendo too?
Post edited August 19, 2012 by ashout
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bevinator: Normally shovelware is spread out across a system's lifespan, but the Wii started out super-strong and then got all of its shovelware all at once, which turned off a lot of people who would have otherwise been interested in buying more stuff.
Bloody Ubisoft! There are only so many babies we can imagine, Ubisoft!
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ashout: i agree with you. last i heard, the wii was doing just fine in the console market.
The amount of consoles sold, sure. But the amount of games sold for every console sold is very, very low. Sony even banked on being able to profit from the games if they made a loss on the console. It paid off. But imagine if Nintendo tried it.
Post edited August 19, 2012 by Navagon
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OmegaX: Isn't the 3DS doing much better than the Vita? I find that people are way too biased against Nintendo to recognize when they are doing fine. People have been saying Nintendo is going out of business for years now. Did you know PC gaming is dying? I heard about it when the PS1 was released so it must be true.
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Navagon: Dunno about the Vita, but 3rd party support already seems to be on the wane for the 3DS. It just seems like Nintendo have been floundering a bit since the Wii went from astronomical success to bombing right out the charts. I think they really believed that the casual market that bought the Wii could be sustained. But instead it was just another fad thing as far as a lot of its customers were concerned, as was indicated by the low game to console sales.
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hercufles: Me as a wii owner can say that most nes snes games are on the wii so dont think so.
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Navagon: As long as Nintendo are producing hardware then that's where you're going to find their emulated classics.
Well at least you get them how they were back then and made them a classic, not like tose hd remakes what we get for the ps 3.
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hercufles: Well at least you get them how they were back then and made them a classic, not like tose hd remakes what we get for the ps 3.
I don't have a problem with HD remakes as long as they don't bugger up the gameplay.