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Lexor: how much can I modify this second view? Can I move manually these boxes around? Or are they "static"?
They are generated using graphviz :P You have some overall control, but to manually move the nodes, you'd have to output to the language graphviz uses (dot) and then edit that by hand (or with an editor).

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Lexor: Sigh, I do not like such connected solutions :D I'd like to have one good program. :D
What you mean is you'd rather have "one complete installer". Pretty much nothing installed on your computer is "one good program". And when you start bundling programs into one installer, you end up with bloat (multiple installations of the same software), insecurity (old versions being used) and inconsistency (bugs showing in some programs that use one version but not another).

If you don't like it, maybe you should choose an OS with package management :P
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Lexor: How many generations back have you discovered, what year is earliest on your family tree? My personal discovered tree has 7 generations (sadly, not all stages are completed) and an earliest one is dated around first half of XIX century. I am still looking for my distant relatives in Russia (St. Petersburg) and USA (Saugus & Lynn, MA), found some of them in Argentina (La Plata).

If you are interested in genealogy, do you use any program to collect all your data? I'm still looking for some "perfect" one. So far I am just using Illustrator to draw flowchart but it's missing "hold connection between boxes" feature so I need to do everything manually. I was trying a few programs but all of them allowed me to display relatives only in straight line back, without possibility to display whole family tree with all family members (all sisters, brothers, marriages) and ability to move some boxes around.
Just hit up the Mormon stuff, no one is more into genealogy than those folks. They have their own, free program and there's another online one (familysearch.org maybe?). Most of their buildings have a genealogy center which is open to the public, you can order microfilm of records you need to review there.

Mormons, like most Christians, think you have to be baptized to got to heaven (well, they call it the Celestial Kingdom, they have more than one heaven), but unlike most Christians actually bother to make an effort to cover the gaping hole in the pants of Christianity by making an effort to discover people who never had a chance to be baptized and do a stand in baptism for them.
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JudasIscariot: What sites are you using to find info on family in Poland? I wouldn't mind tracing my ancestry back a few generations but I have no idea how to get that kind of info other than listing the few living relatives I already have.
There should be Mormons in Poland too:)
Post edited November 06, 2011 by orcishgamer
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jseeley150: It seems to me that the only reason any software exists is that someone makes some on their own to meet their barest of needs and then stops.
The other reason is that this is big business. And sometimes it is enough to create "low-design" application to get big revenues as most people are interested more just in collecting data than in visual look of them itself. As I have some preferences to precisely sort the look of them later "in a way I want", it is harder for me to find such software.
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xyem: They are generated using graphviz :P You have some overall control, but to manually move the nodes, you'd have to output to the language graphviz uses (dot) and then edit that by hand (or with an editor).
Hmm... so it is controllable just need to invest time (to learn language and such) and not so easy.
I did try researching my family tree once.
Until I found that most of them were still living in it...

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Lexor: How many generations back have you discovered, what year is earliest on your family tree? My personal discovered tree has 7 generations (sadly, not all stages are completed) and an earliest one is dated around first half of XIX century. I am still looking for my distant relatives in Russia (St. Petersburg) and USA (Saugus & Lynn, MA), found some of them in Argentina (La Plata).

If you are interested in genealogy, do you use any program to collect all your data? I'm still looking for some "perfect" one. So far I am just using Illustrator to draw flowchart but it's missing "hold connection between boxes" feature so I need to do everything manually. I was trying a few programs but all of them allowed me to display relatives only in straight line back, without possibility to display whole family tree with all family members (all sisters, brothers, marriages) and ability to move some boxes around.
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orcishgamer: Just hit up the Mormon stuff, no one is more into genealogy than those folks. They have their own, free program and there's another online one (familysearch.org maybe?). Most of their buildings have a genealogy center which is open to the public, you can order microfilm of records you need to review there.

Mormons, like most Christians, think you have to be baptized to got to heaven (well, they call it the Celestial Kingdom, they have more than one heaven), but unlike most Christians actually bother to make an effort to cover the gaping hole in the pants of Christianity by making an effort to discover people who never had a chance to be baptized and do a stand in baptism for them.
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JudasIscariot: What sites are you using to find info on family in Poland? I wouldn't mind tracing my ancestry back a few generations but I have no idea how to get that kind of info other than listing the few living relatives I already have.
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orcishgamer: There should be Mormons in Poland too:)
Isn't Mormonism a sort of American religion? I haven't seen any Mormons here...
My grandfather has been using an (old) obscure version of Family Tree Maker for around 10-15 years now. So I would suggest that. A general UML editor isn't really made for family tree generating though :p And from what I can remember the FTM program sets up a searchable database etc.
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JudasIscariot: Isn't Mormonism a sort of American religion? I haven't seen any Mormons here...
Sure, but they send their missionaries (the 19 year old, mostly boys you see in pairs, riding bikes in a suit) nearly everywhere in the world. They do exports:)
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JudasIscariot: Isn't Mormonism a sort of American religion? I haven't seen any Mormons here...
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orcishgamer: Sure, but they send their missionaries (the 19 year old, mostly boys you see in pairs, riding bikes in a suit) nearly everywhere in the world. They do exports:)
They won't last here. The "drechy" will steal their bikes and their money and send them back in boxes :P. (drechy = sport suit wearing no necks...)
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JudasIscariot: Isn't Mormonism a sort of American religion? I haven't seen any Mormons here...
According to Polish wikipedia there are around 1500 Mormons in Poland. They have their own Polish webpage with family search section. :P
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JudasIscariot: Isn't Mormonism a sort of American religion? I haven't seen any Mormons here...
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Lexor: According to Polish wikipedia there are around 1500 Mormons in Poland. They have their own Polish webpage with family search section. :P
Those Mormons..they get around.don't they?
My Dad pored several years of his life into researching his side of the family. Our last name is a variation on the gaelic word for fox. (Which is Tod, Dod, then evolved into what it is now.) Our family's pretty scattered and some aren't even necessarily blood related anymore, or are so far back in the main branch they might as well not be anymore. What he DID find is that most of us originated from a clan of Scottish border reivers who apparently raided the wrong people, then were subsequently scattered all over the known globe. England, mostly, before coming over to the Americas. We're never very concentrated in one area and a lot of us tend to be wanderers even to this day. I would have liked to known what our crest was, but a perfunctory search through the Edinburgh College didn't bring anything up. :(
I've "translated" my whole family tree from Illustrator to inDesign. It has nice options of managing all text structure - but still no easy option to keep connection between boxes :( I've tried to connect my tree to some data base to input additional data, but found out an additional switchable layer as a better option.

Still using this all as temporary choice and looking forward to some good genealogy application with custom manageable draw of family tree. :(