I asked because I wouldn't buy a 'DRM free' game from them unless it actually was DRM free.

If they would have said, 'no, you must use the client', then they would be like Steam and not like GOG. There are plenty of games, you can pull from your Steam directory and have them still work, that doesn't make the act of doing it legal under the license you agree to when you 'bought' the game.

That you can do something and not get caught, doesn't make it right or legal. (note: I'm not saying that I am not a blatant criminal part of the time, I'm just saying that I know when I am being one and when I'm not.)

Personally, I was hoping for a "yes, you bought the game, it is yours. Back it up early and often" GOG type answer.

Their vague answer puts them in the middle ground between GOG and Steam. So as much as some might think that it is perfectly ok to circumvent their client and make a personal copy, it isn't. But, it also isn't directly against their wishes either.

Not really. I think the easy backing up is one of their selling points. At least in my view. If they don't allow this, I most likely won't be buying from them.

But still, Angie. :laugh: I like that she actually takes notice of your feedback and replies to your tweets.

I guess my moral standing on it has little to do with what their customer service people say. From my viewpoint, of course it's perfectly okay to make a DRM free backup copy, whatever the methods needed to do so.

I don't buy that. ALL GG games I tried had to be activated in the exact same way: entering a code and it then contacts the GG servers. I do own 30+ games on GG so it's not as if I wouldn't know.

After you install the game, rar / zip the damn files together with a crack. How hard is that? :)

Well, I make a point of only buying DRM free games from there and I've never experienced that. I've only experienced the way the downloader encrypts the installer until you run it. All you have to do then is copy it out of the folder. That's what lowyhong is talking about when he talks about circumventing the DRM.

If your games had activation then it was because it had 3rd party DRM.

That defeats the point. I might as well pirate the entire game then after buying it. The idea is to have a completely legal way to not have to authenticate games.

From my experience, yes. I've used the service for a long time and never had a problem or a bad word to say about them.

I do avoid DRM games on the service however, since as a heavy user of steam I already get the DRM back slap.

for me one of the human mysteries how the gamers could turn to steam and make it a succes - they were the ones cryingt out the loudest against "hard digital right management".

also itunes - the worst drm store..

and not to forget audible, which, at least in germany, dominates the audiobook market with bad quality files of a proper hard drm format..

mhm.. dogs that bark dont bite.. or, the universe "may is ininfite" but the stupidity of human kind is infinite for sure (you know, paraphrasing einstein)

How so? All their music is DRM free.

But this was about computer games, and I'm pretty sure Apple does not add additional DRM to stuff on the Mac App Store.

you are right, my fault:

iTunes Store bietet Songs ab sofort DRM-frei an | 07.01.09, 14:25 Uhr
(itunes songs now without drm)

but still, they started and grew big with the hardest drm out there.

and you are right, it is about videogames, steam stays still there..

Replacing the exe with a cracked one is no different than installing a mod. Just think about it.

Here's an example:

People complain that we who use cracks are assholes and pirates and what else not. We say we just modify the game to suite our needs.

Yet they made a widely used tool for Fallout 3 that removes the GfWL requirement in its entirety.

The first one is a bad thing, yet the second one is good? Please enlighten me. :)

damn you all talked me into trying GG...