Except it wasn't SV you flat out called him a fanboy for enjoying something which one person said was a LITTLE letdown, not even a big let down just had a few faults that were annoying Orcish actually enjoyed it if you read to the end of his post he just felt it wasn't worth full price!

Find where I called him a fanboy please.

easy

If it was so easy one would think the word fanboy would actually be in there.

Anyway, anyone willing to spend $10 for 90 minutes more Assassin's Creed mostly for the story certainly comes across to me as a super fan, no matter how they classify themselves afterward. And super fans tend to ignore problems and insist the flaws others point out are not there in their game, or aren't as bad.

In the end though his experience with this thoroughly unimportant issue is far below my care radar. I posted some quick reactions because hey why not, but now you've got me debating someone elses' taste which is absurdly pointless.

I get it now... you're trolling. Shoulda seen that considering who I'm talking to.

You tell 'em buddy! Honest opinions always be trollin'!

First of all, I'm glad you liked it.

Now, I find I cannot respond without SPOILERS.

SO IF ANYONE ELSE DOESN'T WANT SPOILERS, THEY SHOULD STOP READING THIS POST NOW.

YOU'RE PEAKING, STOP IT.

Yeah, obviously, full synch takes longer, and I did include that as a caveat when I gave my 90 minutes. However, don't think I didn't do any of the optional stuff objectives, I did do 1/3 to 1/2 of it. I just wasn't engaged enough to be arsed to do it all, plus my version seemed to have a bug where the optional objectives didn't always display so several of them I failed before I even knew what they were. I'm sure that'll be patched so I'm not gonna throw a fit about it, there were more bugs than I thought was ideal, but not enough to seriously complain about it.

The reason I said the skills were overpowered were precisely because they are. The stealth is easy, there's always stalking bushes in easy running range (and not even obstacles to dodge while running) and even on my XBox 360 with its more limited draw distance you can see them. There's only one optional objective where you can't use the bushes and its optional, plus there's a shit ton of other hiding places in addition to that eavesdropping being one of the shortest ones in the game. I literally failed to get to stalking bushes a single time in my entire first playthrough. Guard dogs are easily distracted with bait, which you'll have max number of almost all the time (due to the constant wolf killing), you can literally step out of the bushes with your wolf camo on after throwing down bait, the dog ignores you, murder the dog handler, dog still ignores you, murder the dog. All stealth was about that hard. Penetrating the camp near the end was stupid boring, use your wolf camo (which for those that don't know, is fucking invisibility, nothing else) to jump through stalking bushes, you distract 2 dogs, and one is part of the dog distracting mini-tutorial, and seriously use stalking right up until you find your target, then stalk him between hidey holes until he gets to the end. No trees are necessary, no climbing, no assasinations (beyond a single dog and guard). Oh I think during the 2nd phase a stopped long enough in some bushes to switch skills and throw down some more bait for a dog which literally was a 2 second distraction. You literally, invis run to the next bushes, get your health back and do it again for about 5 minutes and that's the end of the mission.

As for your summoning wolves power, that's the reason there's a fuckton of guys all over the map, they didn't make it powerful because you needed it, they addressed the ridiculous overpowered nature of it by simply peppering the map with a shit ton of unavoidable, extremely large groups of powerful enemies. Being able to walk between 2-3 very powerful enemies, such as Jaegars, and instantly kill them makes even those fights a joke. This means you can't ever stealth to get a chest or solve most missions, because they didn't even bother to make it possible, they just threw down too many guys and didn't worry about pathing or anything.

I got attacked by wolves when before and after rescuing slaves from convoys and while getting chests. Many of the guard encampments seemed to be in a fairly constant skirmish with wolf packs. Dunno why it was different for you, but cool, I guess.

So, again, I'm happy you liked it and I don't think you're some kind of awful person for disagreeing with my assessment or anything. I just stand by my assertion that the powers are stupidly OP to the point of ruining the game play that most people like in AC games (I mean if they wanted to make a more brawler oriented campaign, I guess that's maybe okay, but I might not have bought it on day if they'd been up front about it, probably have waited to see if it was good).

There is more stuff for me to do and collect that I have not collected, that's cool too. I was just pointing out, non-hardcore people could pretty easily finish that DLC in 90 minutes and have found it extremely easy to the point of being a disappointment.

The story is awesome and it's worth buying, in my estimation, purely on its own merit, just not for 10 bucks.

This is the kind of post I like... not being a dick but conteracting what I was saying (much like I was with you, before a certain other person felt the need to jump in & contribute nothing but insults).

There is some truth to what you are saying... I won't argue that. I had no problem with the side objectives themselves, but I did have an issue with there random nature. You never knew when you were really going to run into somebody & that made them a bit of a pain in the ass... also, near the end of the DLC, I will admit that I was glad that it was over due to the amount of time it took to get all of the various chests, the time it took to find 5 of each side mission & the insane number of enemies (I mean seriously.... when you see a dude singlehandedly kill upwards of 30 soldiers in front of you, don't you think that it would be time to retreat? What have you really got to gain from fighting him?).

I will also agree with your assessment that if you were to simply do nothing but the missions that you would get maybe 90 minutes of gameplay... I was simply stating astonishment that after your low number & the fact that I was expecting no more than 2 hours that I nearly got 2 hours extra out of it. I feel that the DLC could have honestly benefited from an extra story mission or 2. Hopefully the next 2 will be better on that front.

I never used the bait... simple as that. I think that may be why we have different experiences on the stealth side of things. I couldn't figure the bait out & when to set it, besides it felt a bit cheap, so I took a safe route around them that didn't involve it. That right there proves that there is potential to play the game at least somewhat like the main game. In fact.... I only used the powers when I had literally no other option (such as the fort in which you mentioned), an optional objective required it or when fighting as a way to counteract the shit ton of enemies all over me.

The summoning wolves thing I used maybe all of 5 times in the 4 hours I spent with the DLC. I tended to forget that I had it & mostly used the turn invisible power in battle to take out the strong enemies. That being said... as I said before... I fully agree with you on the amount of enemies. Its extraordinarily frustrating.

The wolf thing wasn't like that with me at all... maybe I was lucky. maybe you were unlucky, maybe it was because I was on PS3 & myybe it was because you were on 360. Who knows

Once again... I will agree.... but only to an extent. If they incorporate Powers into Black Flag (at least with anything short of a Piece/Shard of Eden that you have to work for by doing all the temples or something) then I will be extraordinarily against it. In the confines of this DLC though, I'm not to much against it. They were going for a fantasy kind of thing & that is what it is... Kind of like Sleeping Dog's Nightmare in North Point DLC.

Dude stop being so sensitive. I said it confused me you took his review as a positive, then I said you seemed defensive of the game due to being a big fan. I didn't insult your mother and I didn't even call you a bad name. No need to keep this passive aggressive shit going or to PM me insults like some angsty teenager.

If it makes you feel better then hey, sorry, there was no personal insult made or intended. Just chill the fuck out, alright?

Likewise

AAA games right now are a freaking Headache when you have to keep up with all of the DLC, updates, events and stuff

So I'll just wait for the "complete" edition later

At least for example when you bought the Witcher 2 here on GOG all of the updates and DLC was given automatically for free

Well to be absolutely fair, the game itself is absolutely massive. I still think it is the worst since the 1st game, but I can't deny that it has a metric shit ton of things to do in it. My play time was like 50+ hours to 100% the single player game & another 6 or so hours to do the Multiplayer stuff for the Platinum. Also... you can get it insanely cheap online. I bought it upon release for $60US &, after platiniuming the game, sold it to Gamestop (for a surprisingly high price of $38).... then just last week rebought it on Amazon for $22. If you want to wait for the Gold edition & spend all that money for it... then thats up to you. The thing is... the DLC (while I did somewhat like it) is not integral to the game & to be honest has not done much to raise my feelings on the game as a whole.