So let me get this straight. You're saying that just because someone treats you some way, you should then act that way? Is that what you're saying? So, for example, if you're a minority of some sort, and people in the majority treat you like a second class citizen, then you should act like a second class citizen? Should a woman be forced to stay at home and raise children just because some men think that she should? Or what if you're of Middle Eastern decent, and people treat you like a terrorist? Should you then go hijack an airplane and crash it into a building? What if you're falsely arrested for murder? Should you go kill someone just for the hell of it? I mean, if they're going to treat you like a criminal, then you might as well act like a criminal, right?

Or maybe you should just stop trying to find excuses for pirating games.

Your post makes me think you understood absolutely nothing of my previous post, so I'll say it as simple as I can:

Piracy cannot be stopped by DRM. The only way piracy can be stopped is by making people willing to pay them. That will never happen with DRM, because not only does it stop you from playing the game normally, but it also treats you like a criminal. So companies that use DRM should be penalized, through piracy and other methods. Keep in mind, I would never pirate a game that I can buy DRM-free and for a fair price, which is why I don't pirate GOG games even though they can be easily obtained through Pirate Bay and other such sources.

In short: Companies that use DRM must be punished until they decide to stop.

It's also the only way to stop piracy. Pirates must be punished. The easiest way to achieve this is to ruin games and put in DRM, because that seems to really piss them off, and pirates deserve it too. They should intentionally ruin games and put in DRM until the pirates decide to stop.

What? Dude, piracy CANNOT be stopped by DRM. That's just my point, it doesn't affect people who pirate games, it only affects people who buy them legally...

Well, pirates are acting like the companies are a bunch of pricks, so the companies should act like pricks. What? Dude, DRM CANNOT be stopped by piracy. Piracy actually gives them ammunition. You know, game companies are GREEDy, right. So because I'm virtuous and not affected by the bad GREED, I'm gonna get their game for free against their wishes. See? It all makes sense.

You still don't get it. I'm not talking about CONVINCING companies who use DRM to stop, i'm talking about outright bankrupting them. I'm saying we should NOT pirate games that are available without DRM and if you really want a game that has DRM, you should just pirate it. For the record, I haven't pirated anything in years, just because games made recently are pieces of shit that really aren't worth buying.

I agree with you. They should be punished. BY NOT BUYING THE GAME. Not by pirating it. Piracy is the cause of DRM, not the solution to it. There is NEVER a reason to pirate a game.

Let me ask you this: What is worse for a company? 1000 people who pirate a game and have a great time playing it? Or 1000 people who don't buy that game and buy some other company's game? Companies plan for piracy. And if they admit it, they'd much rather people pirate their game than play their competitor's games. So by pirating a game, you're not punishing them as much as you think that you are. If fact, you're playing right into their hand. Yes, they'd rather you buy it. But at least you're playing it.

But hey, if your anger over DRM is the justification that you need in order to feel good about illegally downloading a video game instead of paying for it, go right ahead. I'm not going to stop you. I'm just saying that if you really are interested in hurting them (not in rewarding yourself with a free game), then you're much better off not playing the game period.

Neither do you. Your little piracy scheme isn't going to make a single company go bankrupt, and even if you actually managed to get enough people to make that happen, there would suddenly be some really strict laws about piracy all of a sudden. Pirating the games is only working towards making life harder for the common gamer, just like DRM, so it's 2 pretty much equivalent sides having a pissing contest of who can piss on the common guy harder.

On one side, we have the companies, that aren't really affected by piracy because apparently there's no lost sale when someone pirates it, so they just get annoyed by it. This leads to DRM out of spite. On the other side, we have pirates, who aren't really affected by DRM because they crack it out, but they just get annoyed by it. This leads to piracy out of spite.

..and I do believe pirates started this one.

If you want to get some company out of business, convince everyone not to buy their games. If you convince everyone to pirate 'em, you're practically marching through the Legislator Street with a sign "Company X makes desirable products, but they have a serious problem caused by lenient legislation", and legislators can read.

There's no way this can be stopped by stricter laws. Do you realize how many people pirate stuff? There aren't enough prisons for them. Also, keep in mind that pirates vote as well. You saw how many protests there were world-wide about ACTA. Legislators can also count, and they'll realize that most people pirate and that any legislation against piracy will make them lose the elections...

Actually, piracy could be almost entirely stopped by strict enough laws, but by then we'd be living in a seriously scary police state. Even if these laws don't stop piracy, they'll most likely end up hurting the non-pirates who you're supposedly trying to protect with this piracy scheme.

You must think piracy is a really serious crime if you automatically think that stricter laws mean prison time. :p

If there's a big enough reason to pass the law (like big companies going bankrupt), I doubt some petty protests would make a difference. The reason ACTA got shot down so hard was because it was ridiculous. The future laws might not affect the Wikipedia readers and whatnot, so a day's blackout of popular sites would only spread misinformation. Just try and get Facebook to go down for a few days for a law that doesn't affect them and actually just goes after pirates and possibly allows even more ridiculous DRM for video games.