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Crassmaster: But I maintain that what you're telling that company is "Wow, we clearly need to lock our games down tighter, because these people keep pirating them."

Want to vote for a company not to use a DRM system? Keep your wallet in your pocket. Even better, buy a game from a competitor (or, a different game from them that uses a system you're fine with) instead.
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GameRager: And what's to keep them from using the DRM or other forms of protections? They'll just think "Gee, our DRM must be working....people are pirating it less often. Let's stick with it then."

In your case or mine, they can and could still use DRM.....in my scenario though, they suffer for it. Although as I said before I don't use DRM as the main reason I pirate.
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michaelleung: Lumpy?! I'm feeling so emotionally assaulted now.
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GameRager: It's cuz your pic looks a bit like lumpy from Happy Tree Friends, silly. :P

:D
Now I'm seriously offended. Have you EVER seen Blackadder?
Game Rager, if you dont mind me asking.. How have you managed to get -673 rep in... what.. two months? o_o were you like, spamming the forums, or insulting GOG staff members' mothers?
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lowyhong: uruk shall be proud of thee. Besides, I don't think Toshi will be back anytime soon.
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Rohan15: ....WHY?!
And I'm assuming that 'Toshi' was a reference to anjohl and Bansama?
You need to watch the video :P
Post edited October 26, 2010 by lowyhong
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SirCabbage: Game Rager, if you dont mind me asking.. How have you managed to get -673 rep in... what.. two months? o_o were you like, spamming the forums, or insulting GOG staff members' mothers?
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GameRager: I "insulted" some long standing members who said stuff I didn't like, and their "fans" here who didn't like that vote me down....alot. That's about it basically.
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lowyhong: You need to watch the video :P
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GameRager: I did....Toshi....Toshi, COME HERE NOW TOSHI!

Lolololol.
You defintally have the lowest rep ive ever seen. Almost impressive in its negitivity
Gosh. GOG lost my post.

Right, well, DRM isn't an issue for me personally. I buy most of my PC games on GOG, and my console gaming is done only on 'classic' consoles (a polite term for the previous generation). However, the few games I do buy new, I buy only after viewing youtube videos and reading reviews, perhaps talking to my friends. I think this precludes the 'I might not like it' argument for piracy, since if you have time to search a torrent, you have time to search a few youtube videos and reviews. And surely you have friends, right? :D

Secondly, if you don't like the DRM system, you can buy the game on Steam - Steam's not going away, I suspect its system is pretty much the wave of the future. Admittedly, if Steam does not have the game, you'll have to either wait for it to get it, or buy it on a console to avoid the DRM.

Thirdly, if you cannot afford to play a game, simply don't. You do not have the right to spend your free time the way you want to, you have the privilege of having free time to spend. I don't have the right to steal a helicopter and try to run down flocks of endangered buffalo with a water cannon simply because I'm bored. I'd have to pay for that right. Aaand probably bribe witnesses.

There are a variety of things to do with free time, and there are affordable options for everyone. For instance, this very site just released NWN: Diamond, which is at least 150 hours of gametime just in the included modules and has hundreds, if not thousands of hours more life in modules and online play. That's $10 for that.

And finally, 'sticking it to the man' by stealing something you'd enjoy having is a sad and somewhat silly excuse. It doesn't prove a point, it just means that you'll go to jail for a long time or pay a very big fine when found out, and people will not 'rally to your cause', they'll just hide or delete their own pirated games and shiver in terror about being discovered.
I've seen the light! By taking what I wish to please myself, I will revolt against the established authority that says people should be rewarded for their work!

Seriously. That sad little argument about not stealing anything because there's not a physical copy stolen is just plain silly, a dvd-rom takes five minutes to burn and costs perhaps a dime. You know darn well that the money's paid for the work that went into the game, not the work that went into making the copy you didn't pay for.
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Runehamster: I've seen the light! By taking what I wish to please myself, I will revolt against the established authority that says people should be rewarded for their work!

Seriously. That sad little argument about not stealing anything because there's not a physical copy stolen is just plain silly, a dvd-rom takes five minutes to burn and costs perhaps a dime. You know darn well that the money's paid for the work that went into the game, not the work that went into making the copy you didn't pay for.
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GameRager: The companies guarantee the workers get paid from company profits from other people buying their stuff.....and unless the game sucks they always make their money back....so point up for me on this one pal.
Uh...stockholders too, but yes, you can rationalize this away, I suppose. Look, ultimately it's your life, if you're happy, that's fine! I just prefer my entertainment to be legal and I don't like it when people rationalize things instead of just coming out and saying they do it because they want to do it.