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Negatus: Your salary estimate seems high to me. Lowering it by $10,000 will probably be closer.
I googled "mean salaries US" and it gave me ~ 65K
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Negatus: Your salary estimate seems high to me. Lowering it by $10,000 will probably be closer.
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amok: I googled "mean salaries US" and it gave me ~ 65K
Yowch! Either this is due to top earners skewing the numbers or I'm still being paid like it's 1999. Probably the latter...
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MarioFanaticXV: I have to agree... Full price for a digital game is ridiculous. I love Obsidian's writing, and I'm sure this will be a great game, but one shouldn't have to pay retail price for a download game. Even 10 USD is pushing it for a digital game.

That said, if people are paying it, what can be done about it? Everything is worth what it's purchaser will pay for it.
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snowkatt: im sure obsidian doesnt have to pay rent and other bills
marketing or the salaries of all the people who worked on the game anyway

or do you think games just make themselves ?
If they don't know how to budget a project, that's their problem, not mine. I'm not paying retail price for what's essentially an indefinite rental.

I'd probably pay around 40 USD for a retail package, maybe as much as 100 USD for a collector's edition retail (depending on what's in it, of course), but 60 USD for a digital copy? I'll wait for a price drop.
Gotta say I enjoyed my quick jaunt to Russia... shirtfronted Vlad (cause Tony doesn't have the balls)... downed a few vodka brewskis...
Post edited November 14, 2014 by Bigs
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snowkatt: im sure obsidian doesnt have to pay rent and other bills
marketing or the salaries of all the people who worked on the game anyway

or do you think games just make themselves ?
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MarioFanaticXV: If they don't know how to budget a project, that's their problem, not mine. I'm not paying retail price for what's essentially an indefinite rental.

I'd probably pay around 40 USD for a retail package, maybe as much as 100 USD for a collector's edition retail (depending on what's in it, of course), but 60 USD for a digital copy? I'll wait for a price drop.
Your argument is about digital games as a whole and nothing specific about this game.
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MarioFanaticXV: If they don't know how to budget a project, that's their problem, not mine. I'm not paying retail price for what's essentially an indefinite rental.

I'd probably pay around 40 USD for a retail package, maybe as much as 100 USD for a collector's edition retail (depending on what's in it, of course), but 60 USD for a digital copy? I'll wait for a price drop.
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misteryo: Your argument is about digital games as a whole and nothing specific about this game.
I never said it was specific to this game.
Agreed, TomentFan. What I would have bought for $20, or even $25, on launch I'll instead wait until I can get for less than $10. This goes for Divinity: Original Sin, Wasteland 2, now Pillars, and I can only assume Tides of Numenera and Grim Dawn. The hubris when it comes to pricing on some indie games has really been pissing me off recently.
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rampancy: I just think it's hilarious that someone would compare a game like Pillars of Eternity to CoD...
Yeah, it's incredibly dumb. It's a sad thing when people cannot make a difference beetween an isometric crpg, and some dumbass fps.
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I would not pay USD 60 for ANY games.
Except if I see names like Chris Avellone, Colin McComb, and other demigods of crpg. In this case I already spent more than 70 for Eternity, and more than 80 on TToN (USD).
AAA games at launch usually cost 60 USD barebone (without any extra), so no, in this case 60 bucks is not that much (remember Mass Effect 3?).
In this case, most of the money goes to the developers, not to bloodsucking, good-for-nothing corporate assholes, and their assistants.
Post edited November 14, 2014 by dBLOOD
Both versions are currently 10% off, so if anyone wants it that badly, now's the time to buy them. $54 is better than $60.
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Negatus: Your salary estimate seems high to me. Lowering it by $10,000 will probably be closer.
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amok: I googled "mean salaries US" and it gave me ~ 65K
Should've googled "median".
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amok: I googled "mean salaries US" and it gave me ~ 65K
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Starmaker: Should've googled "median".
hehe, probably. But then again, median is w the middle#, while mean is the average average#. So even in a company like Obsedian, there will be a difference between the median and the mean. Getting the median only get you the number in the middle, if you want to get a total based on #people you would still need to use the mean. If you use the median, the final number you arrive to will not be correct for total#, it will more be what should be an ideal#. Granted, the difference of median and mean within Obsedian is probably not as large as in the US of total, but it is the only number I have to go with.