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Is this a real thing or an internet hoax? I'm seriously asking.
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moobot83: tbh youtube is trash now google arent implementing any wyas to fix it, its like they want it to fail. doesnt bother me some other company would just start up a similar service, so i dnt care if google looses youtube. cos after youtube all they have is there serach engine and most people know that google search is bad.

remember the saying people say: google is your friend

well i dnt want friends who track me and sell my personal data, so id use duckduckgo or a search engine that vlaues privacy
This, and let's not forget that youtube is more interested in policing "hate speech" than it was over the child porn thing, previously. This is more about posturing than actually solving the problem. They're playing whack-a-mole over the adpocalypse and it's just a mess. They need to fix their fundamental approach to these problems.
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samuraigaiden: Is this a real thing or an internet hoax? I'm seriously asking.
Real thing. Both Disney and Ikea pulled back their advertisement because of it, so hopefully it will incite Youtube to act before their empire falls.
I will never understand how rabid people get over anything even remotely possibly, maybe, perhaps pedophilia, as if there are zero other crimes in the world. Hitler's killing millions? Meh. A store clerk helped a child try on a jacket? PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!!!!111

Yes, sex with children is bad, but nobody seems to care about the damage done TRAMPLING anything and anyone in the way of a rumor someone's brothers' cousin's former roomate read online somewhere. Pedophilia is so toxic that simply implying it can destroy lives, with zero evidence whatsoever. It's the mob mentality, the.... eagerness... people seem to have to hurt others without silly things like evidence or proof that perturbs me. Things like pizzagate.

If people actually care about pedos, why is the catholic church sill standing?? We have christians out there ACTUALLY molesting kids and the church ACTUALLY protecting them, yet here is a frantic OP about some possible algorithm that might possibly be allowing pedos to possibly watch vids with kids in them?!? Pedos watching kids is NOT a problem; pedos RAPING kids is.
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BlueMooner: Hitler's killing millions? Meh. A store clerk helped a child try on a jacket? PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!!!!111
Suffering of one person is a tragedy, deaths of millions - that's statistics.

It's not exact quote, but you get the picture. It is far easier to show care about some poor innocent child, than to actually care for complex problems with solutions that involve tough decisions.
Post edited February 23, 2019 by LootHunter
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BlueMooner: I will never understand how rabid people get over anything even remotely possibly, maybe, perhaps pedophilia, as if there are zero other crimes in the world. Hitler's killing millions? Meh. A store clerk helped a child try on a jacket? PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!!!!111

Yes, sex with children is bad, but nobody seems to care about the damage done TRAMPLING anything and anyone in the way of a rumor someone's brothers' cousin's former roomate read online somewhere. Pedophilia is so toxic that simply implying it can destroy lives, with zero evidence whatsoever. It's the mob mentality, the.... eagerness... people seem to have to hurt others without silly things like evidence or proof that perturbs me. Things like pizzagate.

If people actually care about pedos, why is the catholic church sill standing?? We have christians out there ACTUALLY molesting kids and the church ACTUALLY protecting them, yet here is a frantic OP about some possible algorithm that might possibly be allowing pedos to possibly watch vids with kids in them?!? Pedos watching kids is NOT a problem; pedos RAPING kids is.
I think pedophilia has become something of "thing everyone can hate", there are few things in the world which everyone, regardless of political ideology, race, nationality or culture can completely HATE, almost always there's a difference of opinion, but with pedophilia nope. And if there's one thing that unites human beings, it's hate.
Post edited February 23, 2019 by Crosmando
I think youtube should delete cat and crow videos because there may be zoophiles watching my cat and crow videos, and even following recommendations to find more of these videos.

Besides, is this appropriate? There's a kid right there, watching that giant dick! Poor donkey doesn't have clothes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq9DF23sfwM

This is far more sexually explicit than those stupid yoga & shower challenge videos someone linked some time ago.. I don't see what the big fuzz is all about.
Post edited February 23, 2019 by clarry
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Crosmando: I think pedophilia has become something of "thing everyone can hate", there are few things in the world which everyone, regardless of political ideology, race, nationality or culture can completely HATE, almost always there's a difference of opinion, but with pedophilia nope. And if there's one thing that unites human beings, it's hate.
Well, there ARE pedophilles, and pedophiles are part of humanity, so they are a limitation to that "everyone" (even though there are also pedophiles who honestly hate pedophilia, and I actually suspect some of these to be spamming gog reviews as a hobby).

So, no unanimity there. No more than in the latest nearest thing ("everyone loves hating nazis"). As always, only works, rhetorically, if you exclude the target from "human beings" or from "everyone", but then it easily gets a bit circular.
Post edited February 23, 2019 by Telika
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Telika: there are also pedophiles who honestly hate pedophilia, and I actually suspect some of these to be spamming gog reviews as a hobby
A very subtle expression of opinion on certain "human beings", I must say.</sarcasm>
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clarry: I think youtube should delete cat and crow videos because there may be zoophiles watching my cat and crow videos, and even following recommendations to find more of these videos.
Don't worry, those videos (and people watching them for pleasure) WILL be next.
Post edited February 23, 2019 by LootHunter
Impossible. Youtube is broken. Thanks google.
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Telika: there are also pedophiles who honestly hate pedophilia, and I actually suspect some of these to be spamming gog reviews as a hobby
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LootHunter: A very subtle expression of opinion on certain "human beings", I must say.</sarcasm>
It's not really an opinion (in the sense of judgement) on these reviewers. It's an interpretation. I actually believe that they have a serious, non-funny, worrying issue (the quick eroticisation of childlike figures), without being bad people themselves (they are horrified by it).
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Telika: I actually believe that they have a serious, non-funny, worrying issue (the quick eroticisation of childlike figures), without being bad people themselves (they are horrified by it).
And I believe that they are just yet another breed of busybodies, who have nothing to do, so they spend time moralizing everyone else.

Seriously, after I brought myself up to speed on the subject, for me situation looks much worse and not in relation to pedophilia. I would understand concerns about children making suggestive videos and becoming targets for sexual predators in the process. But apparently the main part of videos that were taken down or demonetized were actually family videos, that had no "suggestive content", but had some nasty (or supposedly nasty) comments from (supposed) pedophiles.

It's what essentially clarry pointed out above. There is no real connection between videos themselves and pedophile gangs, just some suspicions in the heads of (probably) the same people who invented "pizzagate". And youtube, who a few years ago decided to play censorship committee, now has to live up to own "we won't allow anything bad exist on our platform" claims. However, since youtube was never able to police own platform properly (stories about false-flagging and taking down innocent channels (and I mean really innocent, that had no controversial content whatsoever, not just some folks who were censored for political reasons) can be counted by hundreds), current measures are totally inadequate.
Post edited February 23, 2019 by LootHunter
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Telika: I actually believe that they have a serious, non-funny, worrying issue (the quick eroticisation of childlike figures), without being bad people themselves (they are horrified by it).
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LootHunter: And I believe that they are just yet another breed of busybodies, who have nothing to do, so they spend time moralizing everyone else.

Seriously, after I brought myself up to speed on the subject, for me situation looks much worse and not in relation to pedophilia. I would understand concerns about children making suggestive videos and becoming targets for sexual predators in the process. But apparently the main part of videos that were taken down or demonetized were actually family videos, that had some nasty (or supposedly nasty) comments from (supposed) pedophiles.
Ah. I don't know, honestly i didn't dig into that youtube scandal thingy at all. I only checked what the visual novel reviewers were ranting about, in a different thread, and it's those people that I had in mind in my parenthesis. I have no idea whether the concern about this thread's youtube thing is legit or not.
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Crosmando: I think pedophilia has become something of "thing everyone can hate", there are few things in the world which everyone, regardless of political ideology, race, nationality or culture can completely HATE, almost always there's a difference of opinion, but with pedophilia nope. And if there's one thing that unites human beings, it's hate.
Which is an issue. When you give people "permission" to HATE something, allow them to throw off the trappings of civilization and turn into animals, shutting off their brains, their morals, their ethics, you create room for people to do that with other things as well. Once people have learned to chuck law and justice out the window, once they've tasted blood... they can learn to like it, learn to want more of it.

Here in the US, people are hating each other more and more, and I think that's due to people feeling infused with moral outrage and righteous justice. And I feel that hatred and animosity is spilling out into the rest of the English speaking world. People are ever quicker to judge, condemn, and hate.
I thought the thread would have more of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPAOGQ83x0g

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BlueMooner: Once people have learned to chuck law and justice out the window, once they've tasted blood... they can learn to like it, learn to want more of it.

Here in the US, people are hating each other more and more, and I think that's due to people feeling infused with moral outrage and righteous justice. And I feel that hatred and animosity is spilling out into the rest of the English speaking world. People are ever quicker to judge, condemn, and hate.
Most of it's media is to blame who then screech 1st amendment anytime it looks like they're going to held accountable.