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Posted June 01, 2021
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Canuck_Cat: I agree. Their last newest game here was DA: Origins (2010) back in 2016. So if they had plans to release 2 (2011) or Inquisition (2014), they would've done so for 2 between 2017-now. And around now would be an expected release for Inquisition. But they haven't so far.

Possibilities:

- Origins undersold here (most likely, though only GOG and EA would know)
- EA decision-makers don't think DRM-free business models are profitable enough for their other products
- They wants to better focus on revenue streams from EA Origin (only on Steam because of player base)
- GOG hasn't made any more inroads with them (also possible because of the pandemic preventing in-person meetings)

The only way to know is to ask them.
They're on Steam because it still forces Origin. They get to eat their cake and have it too. They get access to the Steam customer base, and they get to force purchasers to use Origin.
Posted June 01, 2021
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TomNuke: I mean, they're all shit companies, and people shouldn't buy from them at all. Most don't care though, and just blindly consume whatever crap these people put out, so they don't miss out playing the latest "AAA" crap game. The kinds of people who eat up, and bend over for MTX, GaaS, DRM and stuff like that.
Sure edgelord, every AAA game sucks, keep telling yourself that.
Posted June 02, 2021
While I do agree that their antics and "design choices" are questionable. I still look into the games as a source of pride for most people who worked on it. In a sense, that's all I need to show respect for those who were pushed for long "crunches" and put all their love on this. For most of them, they have no say when the upper echelon mandates a design choice for the game. DLCs, DRM, story, characters, you name it, most people who work on the trenches has no say in it.

I can hate the company. But I can at least acknowledge a game when it does something right and when it does something, really bad. For example, Randy Pitchford; the guy supposedly screwed Sega when he was working on Borderlands 1 and 2 which caused Aliens: Colonial Marines to end up like that. But the same Randy Pitchford also promoted the National Videogame Museum in Frisco, TX. I hate the antics he and his people did with Sega, but I can admire his desire to promote and preserve game culture. And I liked Borderlands 1 and 2 as well. They really did it right.
Post edited June 02, 2021 by anizawa
Posted June 03, 2021
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anizawa: I'm actually hesitant to buy Mass Effect on Steam just because of the Origin requirement. What's the point of buying it on Steam then having to log in to another to get it running. I assume GOG will have to contend to this as well if Mass Effect does get released here
Unless it's super-duper dirt-cheap on Steam - and usually, it isn't, if they have their own store and/or take into account 30% of their fees goes to Steam/Valve on Steam-versions - yeah, I'll just stick w/ the main Origin-version for EA's game.
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Canuck_Cat: I agree. Their last newest game here was DA: Origins (2010) back in 2016. So if they had plans to release 2 (2011) or Inquisition (2014), they would've done so for 2 between 2017-now. And around now would be an expected release for Inquisition. But they haven't so far.

Possibilities:

- Origins undersold here (most likely, though only GOG and EA would know)
- EA decision-makers don't think DRM-free business models are profitable enough for their other products
- They wants to better focus on revenue streams from EA Origin (only on Steam because of player base)
- GOG hasn't made any more inroads with them (also possible because of the pandemic preventing in-person meetings)

The only way to know is to ask them.
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paladin181: They're on Steam because it still forces Origin. They get to eat their cake and have it too. They get access to the Steam customer base, and they get to force purchasers to use Origin.
Plus, they likely don't have to re-work any Origin-dependencies if they just bring the Origin-version to Steam. They can just chuck Steam on top and be done w/ it.

I'd guess, the Steam-version with Origin also probably still supports Origin's Cloud Save, Origin Friends, Origin Achievements, and any other Origin proprietary features.
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Shadowstalker16: As with all things EA, I'd assume it would depend on financial incentive. Currently, they're adopting the Activision model of not decreasing the price for their games, even the old ones. This is in conjunction with pushing their subscription service and in future probably only allowing games to be bought on a subscription basis.

Also, if they were interested in bringing more of their games here, they would have done so when they brought all of their games to Steam. But they didn't, probably because of the thought that DRM-free equals piracy. Considering all of this, its unlikely.
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Canuck_Cat: I agree. Their last newest game here was DA: Origins (2010) back in 2016. So if they had plans to release 2 (2011) or Inquisition (2014), they would've done so for 2 between 2017-now. And around now would be an expected release for Inquisition. But they haven't so far.

Possibilities:

- Origins undersold here (most likely, though only GOG and EA would know)
- EA decision-makers don't think DRM-free business models are profitable enough for their other products
- They wants to better focus on revenue streams from EA Origin (only on Steam because of player base)
- GOG hasn't made any more inroads with them (also possible because of the pandemic preventing in-person meetings)

The only way to know is to ask them.
DA: Origins never required Steam, Origin, or anything of that sort - so that's probably easier to bring to other platforms like GOG and Steam, as it's an older game and has less proprietary-service dependencies.

More modern games, they often & likely have dependencies built in for other platforms.
Post edited June 03, 2021 by MysterD
Posted June 03, 2021
Mass Effect Legendary Edition is more likely than most, though obviously not until the player-base count has died off on other platforms. Unlike the original Mass Effect 2 and 3, running the game requires no external internet connection, since there is no multiplayer and all DLC is included. (the Origin requirement has been removed from other games on GOG - like Crysis)

Dragon Age 2 + its DLC bundle could come to GOG. There are no game systems that require an online connection. Dragon Age Origins save-games are imported by detecting them on your hard-drive.

Dragon Age Inquisition will never come to GOG - not without serious patching. First there's the multiplayer component. Then there's the fact that importing a saved world-state has always required connecting to the Dragon Age website to import a "tapestry." Unless that is localized in some way (more complicated than simply tying off / removing Steam or Origin drm), DAI will never be truly offline, making it unlikely to arrive on the GOG store.

tldr MELE and DA2 could wind up on GOG eventually, but DAI probably never will.
Post edited June 03, 2021 by Abedsbrother
Posted June 03, 2021
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MysterD: DA: Origins never required Steam, Origin, or anything of that sort - so that's probably easier to bring to other platforms like GOG and Steam, as it's an older game and has less proprietary-service dependencies.

More modern games, they often & likely have dependencies built in for other platforms.
DA:O (2009) has Origin DRM on it; probably added retroactively after Origin launched. If EA doesn't already have DRM-free builds of games available, then GOG has some expertise in cracking them (noclip documentary). From that, we can deduce the reason why 2 and Inquisition aren't here is either because GOG hasn't solicited them yet, someone forgot about it, or EA execs haven't agreed to it yet.

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Origin#Unverified_or_DRM_protected
Posted June 03, 2021
EA games that were released before 2011 were never Origin games, because Origin didn't even exist before then. Saying that a pre-2011 EA game is an Origin game just because it requires the client is the same as saying that Doom 3 is a Steam game, just because it requires Steam's client.
Post edited June 03, 2021 by Grargar
Posted June 04, 2021
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MysterD: DA: Origins never required Steam, Origin, or anything of that sort - so that's probably easier to bring to other platforms like GOG and Steam, as it's an older game and has less proprietary-service dependencies.

More modern games, they often & likely have dependencies built in for other platforms.
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Canuck_Cat: DA:O (2009) has Origin DRM on it; probably added retroactively after Origin launched. If EA doesn't already have DRM-free builds of games available, then GOG has some expertise in cracking them (noclip documentary). From that, we can deduce the reason why 2 and Inquisition aren't here is either because GOG hasn't solicited them yet, someone forgot about it, or EA execs haven't agreed to it yet.

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Origin#Unverified_or_DRM_protected
You don't need Origin running in background to run DAO from Origin. Speaking from experience, as I have both that version and Steam's version.

Also, retail versions on disc of DAO don't need Origin either, as I also have that version.

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Abedsbrother: Mass Effect Legendary Edition is more likely than most, though obviously not until the player-base count has died off on other platforms. Unlike the original Mass Effect 2 and 3, running the game requires no external internet connection, since there is no multiplayer and all DLC is included. (the Origin requirement has been removed from other games on GOG - like Crysis)

Dragon Age 2 + its DLC bundle could come to GOG. There are no game systems that require an online connection. Dragon Age Origins save-games are imported by detecting them on your hard-drive.

Dragon Age Inquisition will never come to GOG - not without serious patching. First there's the multiplayer component. Then there's the fact that importing a saved world-state has always required connecting to the Dragon Age website to import a "tapestry." Unless that is localized in some way (more complicated than simply tying off / removing Steam or Origin drm), DAI will never be truly offline, making it unlikely to arrive on the GOG store.

tldr MELE and DA2 could wind up on GOG eventually, but DAI probably never will.
EA and BioWare could always re-work DAI to work w/out Origin and all of its dependencies - but that's up to BioWare to do that and probably for EA to even allow that in the 1st place.
Post edited June 04, 2021 by MysterD
Posted June 04, 2021
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MysterD: You don't need Origin running in background to run DAO from Origin. Speaking from experience, as I have both that version and Steam's version.
Odd it's not in the DRM-free table above. Thank you for the correction.
Posted June 04, 2021
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MysterD: You don't need Origin running in background to run DAO from Origin. Speaking from experience, as I have both that version and Steam's version.
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Canuck_Cat: Odd it's not in the DRM-free table above. Thank you for the correction.
I think that's b/c you need to activate all your DLC's by using your BioWare sign-in/account (or Origin account, these days), while in-the-game & online.

Sure, you don't need the Origin app running in background, but you'll need to use that account to activate your DLC's while running DAO in-the-game.

Also, I don't think disc's DRM check was ever pulled from disc-version either. I haven't used the disc-version in probably forever, so I ain't checked that version out in years.

Easier for me to use Origin-version or Steam-version.
Post edited June 04, 2021 by MysterD
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