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Interesting discussion on reddit about people reporting (admittedly cheap) games now gone from their account due to the developer (Zonitron) now being banned on Steam.

Another feather in the cap of DRM-Free ?? :D

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/72foef/changes_in_steam_api_50_removed_games_no_longer/

Here's the list of titles removed from Steam today (for those who don't want to read the discussion):

Absconding Zatwor

Airon Ball

AironBall: The Floating Lands

AironBall: The Loop

Ball of Paint

Barclay: The Marrowdale Murder

Beast Blaster

Berry Pop Match

Berryblast Matchmaker

Black My White

Black My White Again

Blu Bandana

Break Into Zatwor

Break The Wall

Brilliant Bob

Burger in Partyland

Carnival Ball

Clickey

Clickey: The Velocity Click

Color Balling

Color Snooker

ColorSpill Ball

Crush The Berries

Cyborg Detonator

Edges

Edges 2

Fiends of Imprisonment

Flipper Hazard

Flipper Hazard 2

Flipper Hazard 3

Flipper Hazard 4

Flipper Hazard 5

Fruit Candypop

GooCubelets

GooCubelets 2

GooCubelets: Color Blocking

GooCubelets: OCD

GooCubelets: RGB

GooCubelets: The Algoorithm

GooCubelets: The Void

Gravity At Its Finest

Gravity At Its Finest 2

Grin Bandana

Helium Skies

Hexa Faction

Hexa Faction 2

Laseronium

Laseronium - The Reflexion

Laseronium 2

Laseronium: Over The Line

Laseronium: The Beam Focus

Laseronium: The Line

Match and Crash

Mr. Jumpington

Mr. Jumpington 2

Paint Polygon

PaintPool

Paintsplash Ball

Paper Knights

Pins

Pins 2

Pins 3

Point Connect

Point Connect 2

Point Connect 3

Point Connect 4

Purpul Bandana

Raccoon Hero

Raccoon Hero: Among The Cacti

Raccoon Hero: Monkey Business

Raccoon Hero: Starlight

Raccoon Hero: The Frost

Raccoon Hero: The Marsh

Raccoon Hero: The Sunrise

Raccoon Hero: Under The Sea

Rage Parking Simulator 2016

Rage Parking Simulator 2017

RINGOӘͶIЯ

RINGOӘͶIЯ 2

Run, Goo, Run

RunZ

RunZ 2

SHAPES

SHAPES2

SHAPES3

SHAPES4

SHAPES5

SHAPES6

SHAPES7

SHAPES8

Sketchy

Sketchy 2

Sketchy 3

Sketchy 4

Sleengster

Sleengster 2

Sleengster 3

SlingSkull Zombies

SlingSkull Zombies 2

SlingSkull Zombies: Gravedigger

SlingSkull Zombies: Graveyard Shift

SlingSkull Zombies: The Dawn

Sound Balling

Sound Balling 2

Sphere Toss

Sphere Toss 2

Sphere Toss 3

Sphere Toss 4

Staplers!

Staplers! 2

Staplers! 3

Sugar Fruit Match

Sweet Berry Crush

Tesla's Best Friend

The First Spark

The Last Photon

The Return of Bantara

The Safeguard Garrison

The Safeguard Garrison 2

The Safeguard Garrison: Space Colonies

They Came From The Moon

THREE CANDYBERRY MATCH

Torch Cave

Torch Cave 2

Torch Cave 3

TOREj

TOREj 2

Tracks of Triumph: Good Old Times

Tracks of Triumph: Industrial Zone

Tracks of Triumph: Summertime

Whait Bandana

Why So Evil

Why So Evil 2: Dystopia

Wild Goo Chase

Yello Bandana

Zombie Boom

AimerBall (Unreleased)

AimerBall 2 (Unreleased)

Burger in Hyperland (Unreleased)

Burger on Acid (Unreleased)

Good Eggzample (Unreleased)

GooHuebelets (Unreleased)

Great Eggzample (Unreleased)

Helium Skies 2 (Unreleased)

HexaPlunge (Unreleased)

HexaPlunge 2 (Unreleased)

Machinegun Geometry (Unreleased)

Machinegun Geometry: The Right Angle (Unreleased)

Mr. Jumpington 3 (Unreleased)

Mr. Jumpington 4 (Unreleased)

Pass The Time (Unreleased)

Pass The Time 2 (Unreleased)

Pins 4 (Unreleased)

Point Connect 5 (Unreleased)

Point Snake (Unreleased)

RemOOve (Unreleased)

RemOOve 2 (Unreleased)

RINGOӘͶIЯ 3 (Unreleased)

Sound Balling 3 (Unreleased)

Staplers! 4 (Unreleased)

Sum Sketch (Unreleased)

The Herbologist (Unreleased)

Tinge (Unreleased)

Tinge 2 (Unreleased)

TOREj 3 (Unreleased)

TOREj 4 (Unreleased)

TOREj: Red Cubes (Unreleased)

Unblocky (Unreleased)

Unblocky 2 (Unreleased)

Unblocky 3 (Unreleased)

Unblocky 4 (Unreleased)
So you buy and OWN the games, and then Steam removes them?

Can't wait until someone sues them for theft.
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OldFatGuy: So you buy and OWN the games, and then Steam removes them?

Can't wait until someone sues them for theft.
Just about to ask this.

At least here it stays in your library.
well, I don't know what those people are smoking, but I have a few of those games and they are still in my library... so I guess I still "own" them...

edit - in other words, another bogus story.
Post edited September 26, 2017 by amok
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OldFatGuy: Can't wait until someone sues them for theft.
Pretty sure the Steam TOS says something along the lines of "you are purchasing an indefinite subscription to a service that is not guaranteed to run forever".
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OldFatGuy: Can't wait until someone sues them for theft.
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SirPrimalform: Pretty sure the Steam TOS says something along the lines of "you are purchasing an indefinite subscription to a service that is not guaranteed to run forever".
And I'm pretty sure that everywhere, EVERYWHERE, Steam markets their games they are marketing them as SELLING THEM and you BUYING. them. You can't have it both ways. If you're renting a subscription, the Store needs to make clear and you press a RENT button instead of a PURCHASE button.

See screenshot. They are explicitly saying you are PURCHASING a game, not renting one.
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Post edited September 26, 2017 by OldFatGuy
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SirPrimalform: Pretty sure the Steam TOS says something along the lines of "you are purchasing an indefinite subscription to a service that is not guaranteed to run forever".
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OldFatGuy: And I'm pretty sure that everywhere, EVERYWHERE, Steam markets their games they are marketing them as SELLING THEM and you BUYING. them. You can't have it both ways. If you're renting a subscription, the Store needs to make clear and you press a RENT button instead of a PURCHASE button.
I didn't say anything about renting, I said subscribing. When you subscribe to a service for money you buy a subscription so the word buy is fine.

Note the very name of this document: http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I'm not saying their claims would hold up in court, but a subscription is what they call it, renting has nothing to do with it.
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OldFatGuy: And I'm pretty sure that everywhere, EVERYWHERE, Steam markets their games they are marketing them as SELLING THEM and you BUYING. them. You can't have it both ways. If you're renting a subscription, the Store needs to make clear and you press a RENT button instead of a PURCHASE button.
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SirPrimalform: I didn't say anything about renting, I said subscribing. When you subscribe to a service for money you buy a subscription so the word buy is fine.

Note the very name of this document: http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I'm not saying their claims would hold up in court, but a subscription is what they call it, renting has nothing to do with it.
or "license to use"?
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SirPrimalform: I'm not saying their claims would hold up in court,
Exactly. And I can't wait till the day we find out. They want to market to everyone as though you buy and own the games (because they know if you try and get someone to pay $60 or $90 for a subscription or a rental they will balk) but they want to operate them as though you don't own them. And that is wrong. Whether legally wrong or not I sure hope we'll find out.
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OldFatGuy: And I'm pretty sure that everywhere, EVERYWHERE, Steam markets their games they are marketing them as SELLING THEM and you BUYING. them. You can't have it both ways. If you're renting a subscription, the Store needs to make clear and you press a RENT button instead of a PURCHASE button.
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SirPrimalform: I didn't say anything about renting, I said subscribing. When you subscribe to a service for money you buy a subscription so the word buy is fine.

Note the very name of this document: http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I'm not saying their claims would hold up in court, but a subscription is what they call it, renting has nothing to do with it.
OK, let's go with your "subscription" concept. Suppose I am subscribed to a magazine, like "Time" or "National Geographic". The magazine goes out of business or the photographer that took the photos for several issues quits and goes elsewhere to work. Do the publishers of the magazines then have the right to come to my house at anytime, seize and remove any of their magazines I have subscribed to (and paid money for)?

If I subscribe to a "cheese of the month" club, upon stopping the sale of cheddar, can a company come into my house and confiscate all uneaten cheddar purchased through my "subscription"?
And why Zonitron was banned?
high rated
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mighty.ape.acct: Interesting discussion on reddit about people reporting (admittedly cheap) games now gone from their account
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This is false, as it even says in the thread you link to. games only removed from sale, not from accounts:

"They remain in your library, they just lose their store page and no longer count to your total."

Next time - at least read what you link to...
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nicohvc: And why Zonitron was banned?
Probably because they're a scam company that makes crap games using asset flips.
See also: Digital Homicide

As much as I disagree with Steam removing games from people's libraries, honestly, I'm not even mad about this one. They weren't even true "games", they were basically stolen asset crap used so that the devs could farm money off of cards and such. I've played some of their stuff and it's just as bad as the legends say.
Post edited September 26, 2017 by zeogold
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nicohvc: And why Zonitron was banned?
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zeogold: Probably because they're a scam company that makes crap games using asset flips.
See also: Digital Homicide
I was wondering of that was the reason... and seems to be that if you agree.
I bet that they got some "fraudulent" greenlight upvotes by, for example, giving away games with cards.
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OldFatGuy: So you buy and OWN the games, and then Steam removes them?
You don't own the game, you just own the license to use it, which can be revoked at any time. That's Steam for you.
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zeogold: Probably because they're a scam company that makes crap games using asset flips.
See also: Digital Homicide
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nicohvc: I was wondering of that was the reason... and seems to be that if you agree.
I bet that they got some "fraudulent" greenlight upvotes by, for example, giving away games with cards.
It most definitely was. Or at least, I hope it was, since this would mean Steam's finally doing something against the wave of games and devs like this. I remember seeing a video where they were mentioned and it was explained how they were making money. Lemme see if I can find it.
Edit: Here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjoYaJWzylI
It's not explicitly about THEM, but they're mentioned.
Post edited September 26, 2017 by zeogold