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toxicTom: Since I've never played those, I really can't say.

The "amount of technology" is not the thing in general. It doesn't have to be strictly scifi either - I'm also fine with steam- or dieselpunk settings. Or simply real-world technology like in STALKER.

I guess I'm simply a bit tired of the usual brick or cave wall with wooden door setting. And I simply like run-down or derelict tech stuff, like industrial ruins IRL or settings like Bioshock, System Shock, STALKER, the Fallout games, Alien, SOMA... and high-tech-low-life cyberpunk stuff ever since I read Neuromancer and Burning Chrome.
You should definitely play Parasite Eve on PS1.
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dtgreene: How do you feel about the amount of technology in early Final Fantasy games (1-5)? Is that enough sci-fi for you, or do you prefer one where such technology is common?
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toxicTom: Since I've never played those, I really can't say.

The "amount of technology" is not the thing in general. It doesn't have to be strictly scifi either - I'm also fine with steam- or dieselpunk settings. Or simply real-world technology like in STALKER.

I guess I'm simply a bit tired of the usual brick or cave wall with wooden door setting. And I simply like run-down or derelict tech stuff, like industrial ruins IRL or settings like Bioshock, System Shock, STALKER, the Fallout games, Alien, SOMA... and high-tech-low-life cyberpunk stuff ever since I read Neuromancer and Burning Chrome.
Here's how I can describe this. The world, at first glance, appears to be a typical fantasy world. However, there are some signs of high technology:
* Every early FF game has at least one airship. In FF2, FF3, and FF4, you actually see an airship early in the game. Also, each FF game gives you an airship at some point. (I note that FF4 even has a castle that has an air force of airships.)
* Ancient technology can be found in some places. FF5 has some ancient high tech ruins in it, and FF4 has a few high-tech dungeons in it. Also, there's robot enemies in some areas (not in FF2 or FF3 though).
* While some of the games have robot enemies, the player doesn't get any high-tech weapons. There aren't any guns or flamethrower weapons in the game (although FF5's Blue Mage can learn some of those high-tech attacks as Blue Magic spells).

So, to put it another way, high technology exists, but it's not readily available, though it is something you'll encounter at some point in the game. You might have a lot of the "usual brick or cave wall with wooden door setting", but then you encounter the ruins of a technologically advanced ancient civilization. (With that said, you see some other low-tech dungeons; there's mountain dungeons starting with FF3, and then FF5 has a ship graveyard and even a library dungeon, along with a forest dungeon.)

Later in the series you see higher levels of technology; FF6 is steampunk with magitek armor, FF7 and FF8 appear to be modern technology, and FF15 has a car as the vehicle you drive. FF9 is more of a throwback, but even it has airships and other technologies powered by mist (IIRC).
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toxicTom: Since I've never played those, I really can't say.

The "amount of technology" is not the thing in general. It doesn't have to be strictly scifi either - I'm also fine with steam- or dieselpunk settings. Or simply real-world technology like in STALKER.

I guess I'm simply a bit tired of the usual brick or cave wall with wooden door setting. And I simply like run-down or derelict tech stuff, like industrial ruins IRL or settings like Bioshock, System Shock, STALKER, the Fallout games, Alien, SOMA... and high-tech-low-life cyberpunk stuff ever since I read Neuromancer and Burning Chrome.
Also, Phantasy Star series
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toxicTom: Since I've never played those, I really can't say.

The "amount of technology" is not the thing in general. It doesn't have to be strictly scifi either - I'm also fine with steam- or dieselpunk settings. Or simply real-world technology like in STALKER.

I guess I'm simply a bit tired of the usual brick or cave wall with wooden door setting. And I simply like run-down or derelict tech stuff, like industrial ruins IRL or settings like Bioshock, System Shock, STALKER, the Fallout games, Alien, SOMA... and high-tech-low-life cyberpunk stuff ever since I read Neuromancer and Burning Chrome.
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paladin181: Also, Phantasy Star series
What's interesting is that the Phantasy Star games actually feel different in terms of setting:
1. High fantasy, albeit with space travel and both desert and ice planets. There's dragons and even a castle in the sky. You use magic rather than techniques, though one of the party members uses guns.
2. Dystopian sci-fi. The fantasy elements aren't really present here, while the science fiction elements dominate.
3, Medievan lower magic fantasy. There may be a dragon, but overall the world has more of a medieval feel to it.
4. Space opera, like Star Wars. Basically, science fiction with some significant magical elements, including something called magic (which is not the same as techniques).
CRPGs and Turn Based Strategy (mainly HoMM and Age of Wonders user made maps, some of which are works of art). Most FPS games don't do it for me anymore for some reason, although I still enjoy Thief 1 and 2 fan missions.

I've noticed that the more fiction I read the more I detest story based games (nearly all is fan fiction "young adult" level anyway) and appreciate abstract games more, like the CRPG sub genre "blobbers". I've even been playing emulated Japanese (translated) Wizardry games lately.
Post edited September 21, 2020 by PetrusOctavianus
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dtgreene: What's interesting is that the Phantasy Star games actually feel different in terms of setting:
1. High fantasy, albeit with space travel and both desert and ice planets. There's dragons and even a castle in the sky. You use magic rather than techniques, though one of the party members uses guns.
2. Dystopian sci-fi. The fantasy elements aren't really present here, while the science fiction elements dominate.
3, Medievan lower magic fantasy. There may be a dragon, but overall the world has more of a medieval feel to it.
4. Space opera, like Star Wars. Basically, science fiction with some significant magical elements, including something called magic (which is not the same as techniques).
2 and 4 are my favorites. Always have been. Probably because overall, they're the most similar.
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dtgreene: What's interesting is that the Phantasy Star games actually feel different in terms of setting:
1. High fantasy, albeit with space travel and both desert and ice planets. There's dragons and even a castle in the sky. You use magic rather than techniques, though one of the party members uses guns.
2. Dystopian sci-fi. The fantasy elements aren't really present here, while the science fiction elements dominate.
3, Medievan lower magic fantasy. There may be a dragon, but overall the world has more of a medieval feel to it.
4. Space opera, like Star Wars. Basically, science fiction with some significant magical elements, including something called magic (which is not the same as techniques).
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paladin181: 2 and 4 are my favorites. Always have been. Probably because overall, they're the most similar.
Interestingly enough, 2 is the only one I haven't played all the way through. (When I quit, I had all 8 characters available, though Rolf and Nei can't be removed from the party unfortunately.)

In some ways, 4 feels a bit more like 1 than 2. 2 seems to be in a modern high-tech world (albeit with the dystopian thing going on), while 4 is a bit closer to fantasy; as I said, I think Star Wars is a good comparison to 4.
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dtgreene: Interestingly enough, 2 is the only one I haven't played all the way through. (When I quit, I had all 8 characters available, though Rolf and Nei can't be removed from the party unfortunately.)

In some ways, 4 feels a bit more like 1 than 2. 2 seems to be in a modern high-tech world (albeit with the dystopian thing going on), while 4 is a bit closer to fantasy; as I said, I think Star Wars is a good comparison to 4.
I agree. But I also feel like 4 is closer to what they had envisioned when they made 2. I could be wrong on all that. I have not played 0 or Online.. But PS2 is one of my favorite titles (with the faster walking hack). PS4 is one of my top 10 all time favorite games with FFVI and Dark Souls. Obviously those games scratch different itches and are not of the same quality, but they are great to me for other (most likely nostalgic) reasons.
Post edited September 21, 2020 by paladin181