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Posted December 03, 2019
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GameRager: They only downrated to remove the high rates from all people's posts....the ones they truly dislike got low rated until red marked.
Thats not how it looks now - most posts are downrated now. (Unless "they" now "truly dislike" most of the posters in this thread...)

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sanscript: Trying to enforce some good manners by some of in the community will not work all the way.
I do believe that with the right software a self/user moderated forum could work very well. It just would have to be based on some sort of "friend" system or something. This would imply that the result would look different for different groups of people though. Many forums have a limited version of this in form of ignore lists and such things. The previously mentioned Jerkmuter also goes in this direction.
Posted December 03, 2019
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Also, judging by the massive downrating here I'd say a lot of children here would hate to loose their fictitious "power centre" if a simple minus button was removed! Or dare I say it might even chatter some belief-systems in here... :D
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Zrevnur: I do believe that with the right software a self/user moderated forum could work very well. It just would have to be based on some sort of "friend" system or something. This would imply that the result would look different for different groups of people though. Many forums have a limited version of this in form of ignore lists and such things. The previously mentioned Jerkmuter also goes in this direction.
Perhaps... I've been a mod a few times myself and no forum is "perfect", if there is such a thing.

So far, we're not as bad as Steam, luckily, but then again they're also a lot bigger with a younger crowd...
Post edited December 03, 2019 by sanscript
Posted December 03, 2019
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Leroux: Don't worry about it. Unless you're out to insult others, condone piracy or DRM, or furiously fight over politics, I'm sure you'll be fine. The best thing you can do is chat about games instead. ;)
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dtgreene: I've been low rated for discussing games, even when the discussion is purely about gameplay and doesn't involve anything that could be remotely political, so that advice, unfortunately, doesn't work so well here.
I said it's the best you can do, not that it will protect you a 100%. But you do seem to be fine, your rep is high enough to post links and participate in giveaways, and that's all it's good for. The only thing that gives downvoters power over you is when you show you care and take it personal. Otherwise rep is completely useless, once you've gained enough to post links.
Posted December 03, 2019
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Again, if unchecked, the "keyboard commando" bullies on here will find more-and-more people to attack for more-and-more reasons. That's just what bullies do... and these bullies / trolls feel emboldened by GOG's inaction. I can only hope that GOG sees this is a real problem across the spectrum of people who are genuinely here to share in discussions with others and that they (GOG) take positive action.

Meanwhile, I can ask that those here seeing a problem (or having been victims of these "keyboard commandos"), actively "like" / up-vote posts by others -- if not to solely counteract these attacks then simply to show the poster you appreciate their thoughts and discussion... and keep them feeling they're wanted in the discussion instead of demoralized and driven away by a few trolls with vendettas.

With that said, even though this isn't my thread, I thank people for participating in it. It helps keeping the loss of reputation to trolls in perspective and makes the whole situation a little less demoralizing. Many thanks.

And with that I'll retire from this thread.
Post edited December 03, 2019 by kai2
Posted December 03, 2019
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toxicTom: Baba Jee couldn't post links. So it worked, in a way.
Not on the weekend when staff weren't here and we had 30+ threads of spam flooding the first page of the forums for several days at a time.

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toxicTom: It has worked for years. And - until Witcher 3 brought tons of new users here - pretty well. Tone and manners have gone downhill ever since. And a lot of very nice people left.
Sadly that last bit is so(though many good people are still here, imo...lurking around, but here). It could still use some improvements, though, and perhaps a dedicated forum mod/spam cleaner.

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toxicTom: It has been done. But right now the downvote trolls seem to find delight in leaving visible downvoted posts. Take this opportunity from them and they will resort to spam-delete posts of their "foes".
They already did that to one user's thread, btw.....and even if I said nothing they'd likely leave most threads alone as they get more joy from low rating them than getting rid of them.

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toxicTom: The whole forum would need a complete overhaul. For years now. For GOG the forum - esp. the General - is probably not really important. Only a small minority of GOG users ever post here. More important are probably the game forums, because that where you can get help without pestering GOG support (users help users). And in those forums - while the occasional spam bot hits them - the downvoting problem is almost non-existent.
The general forums are still a better place to get faster replies to some questions, and they get some traffic, so they serve a purpose....I agree they need an overhaul of sorts, though, but I don't think that's gog's top priority(or even high up the list) atm.
Posted December 03, 2019
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sanscript: You're right, however, you yourself is a part of this "toxic" community... evidenced by your faux pas against GameRager a few days ago.
To be fair, Dtgreene doesn't insult me on purpose or to be mean, and is usually very cordial to me and most others. I would appreciate it if you'd take that into account in the future. :)

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Zrevnur: That's not how it looks now - most posts are downrated now. (Unless "they" now "truly dislike" most of the posters in this thread...)
Some still got hit more than others....which leads me to believe some are slated for more or less low ratings based on how they are viewed by some doing it.

It would seem Leroux, Paladin, Bram, and Dtgreene are being hit much less than others, even over time, if one checks the older post's ratings/etc.

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Zrevnur: I do believe that with the right software a self/user moderated forum could work very well. It just would have to be based on some sort of "friend" system or something. This would imply that the result would look different for different groups of people though. Many forums have a limited version of this in form of ignore lists and such things. The previously mentioned Jerkmuter also goes in this direction.
The problem with such software is then people would likely start walling themselves off more easily for every "bad" word or minor perceived slight, until not many might want to talk to many others.

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sanscript: So far, we're not as bad as Steam, luckily, but then again they're also a lot bigger with a younger crowd...
Tbf steam forums are more open than here(some mods more lax, and some less lax, but usually more open overall) and the forums are much more lively(in good ways even).
Post edited December 03, 2019 by GameRager
Posted December 03, 2019
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Posted December 03, 2019
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Zrevnur: I do believe that with the right software a self/user moderated forum could work very well. It just would have to be based on some sort of "friend" system or something. This would imply that the result would look different for different groups of people though. Many forums have a limited version of this in form of ignore lists and such things. The previously mentioned Jerkmuter also goes in this direction.
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GameRager: The problem with such software is then people would likely start walling themselves off more easily for every "bad" word or minor perceived slight, until not many might want to talk to many others.
If thats what people choose/want I am all for giving it to them. Or rephrased: I dont see a problem with that if it were to happen.
Posted December 03, 2019
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Leroux: I said it's the best you can do, not that it will protect you a 100%. But you do seem to be fine, your rep is high enough to post links and participate in giveaways, and that's all it's good for. The only thing that gives downvoters power over you is when you show you care and take it personal. Otherwise rep is completely useless, once you've gained enough to post links.
I still don't think we should let them break the rules as they please without complaint.....how does letting them run roughshod over the forums solve anything? If anything it just encourages them to do it more.

(Of course I also think complaining in such threads does little good....people need to complain en masse to gog and cdpr even(if gog won't get it's act together) if need be.....put their proverbial toes to the fire until they do something)

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Zrevnur: If thats what people choose/want I am all for giving it to them. Or rephrased: I dont see a problem with that if it were to happen.
Why have a forum, then, if no one talks to one another? Imo such tools should be a last resort, not an initial solution.

(Of course if some want or need to use such I don't have a problem with it....I just don't think it should be the first "band aid" they apply to the problem)
Post edited December 03, 2019 by GameRager
Posted December 03, 2019
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DetouR6734: Here to collect.
-35 rep? Pleb numbers, fam. I merely ENTER and post and some cower in fear of me while hitting their minus buttons. o.0

(To those who have broken joke detectors I am not trying to brag about my nega r*p as if I like it or want it or want to do stuff to get it)
Post edited December 03, 2019 by GameRager
Posted December 03, 2019
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Zrevnur: I do believe that with the right software a self/user moderated forum could work very well. It just would have to be based on some sort of "friend" system or something. This would imply that the result would look different for different groups of people though. Many forums have a limited version of this in form of ignore lists and such things. The previously mentioned Jerkmuter also goes in this direction.
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GameRager: The problem with such software is then people would likely start walling themselves off more easily for every "bad" word or minor perceived slight, until not many might want to talk to many others.
We crossed that bridge a long, long time ago. Having an ignore function is absolutely essential, unless you're willing to ban people for being immature -- which would probably reduce the traffic so much that you'd have to ask if it's worth the trouble of having a discussion forum.
Posted December 03, 2019
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Yep, I agree.
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GameRager: Just because your biggest problem(i.e. TinyE) is gone doesn't mean you need to leave rude remarks for other users.
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phaolo: There are a few trolls, scammers and crap people who frankly deserved their reputation.
So, be careful about who you're going to trust here.
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GameRager: Some, yes, but sadly also a good number are just targets of someone else with bots/alts and too much time on their hands.
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toxicTom: The rep system is currently the only way to deal with another bot problem: spam.
You need to earn rep to be able to post links, so newly created accounts can't do it which effectively prevents spam bots from posting links, even if they manage to post their silly messages.
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GameRager: It didn't help against the Bahbah Jee spam, now did it? :|

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toxicTom: And also the 'downvote' is the first step for spam reporting, you can only report a post as spam if you downvoted it first.
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GameRager: They could put that button aside from that button/function, like other forums, if they put some effort in.

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toxicTom: So they can't simply turn off the rep system, or else either nobody or everybody (including spam bots) can post links, and reporting spam would become impossible - or abused instead of the downvote button.
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GameRager: Turning off the r*p system wouldn't necessarily mean stopping link posting for everyone. I am sure there are workarounds to stop spammers yet allow good posters to post...also as said above: That rep system/etc doesn't stop thread flooding.

Also others can still abuse the spam button as well if they so choose(though they shouldn't)...it just takes twice as many clicks.

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toxicTom: We've made countless suggestions how to at least improve the rep system like:
- disable downvote, or all voting, if you have < 10 rep yourself (would prevent rep abuse via alt-accounts)
- make up-/downvotes public (if you push that button, you show your face)
- allow only a certain number of votes per day
etc. pp.
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GameRager: Let's be honest....if it were most other sites they'd be doing these things....but gog is cheap with such things and wants to spend more money and time on it's "steam k*ller" galaxy 2.0

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toxicTom: The current "report as spam" button does not report anything to any blue. If enough people press this, the post will simply be deleted. And if it's the first of a thread, the thread will go too.
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GameRager: That is pants on head ret*rded(pardon my french).

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toxicTom: So if you remove the downvote-button, people would use the "report as spam" button to make the "enemies'" posts disappear. Making "report as spam" an "report to blue" button instead of "auto-delete after x reports" is something GOG obviously doesn't want since it would require more manpower to check each and every complaint.
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GameRager: Some could already do this, as I said, by clicking the low rate then report as spam enough times...it just doubles the clicks needed.
You just don't have enough sense to quit with the idiotic replies.
Posted December 03, 2019
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You just don't have enough sense to quit with the idiotic replies.
Again, are you so upset TinyE is gone you feel the need to pick on others for sport?
(You would constantly complain about him doing such to you, and now you seem to be okay with doing it to others)

Why not tape a pic of him to a punching bag and hit it a few times to calm down if you need to relieve stress?

(Also didn't you ask me not to reply to you? Why reply to me, then?)
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As for your reply: Why not tell me how i'm being "idiotic"/etc so I can counter your argument better....or can you not say much about my posts beyond "they're dumb"?
Post edited December 03, 2019 by GameRager
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DetouR6734: Here to collect.
Open wide. lol
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richlind33: We crossed that bridge a long, long time ago. Having an ignore function is absolutely essential, unless you're willing to ban people for being immature -- which would probably reduce the traffic so much that you'd have to ask if it's worth the trouble of having a discussion forum.
People can ignore people easily without one...just keep the hide a post/thread functionality.

(Also even with such tools many decided to just stop posting/left instead of using them anyways[as far as I can tell]....so them being a thing hasn't helped much....and using them just encourages people to close themselves off like a tortoise upon the first sign of trouble, thus discouraging & not encouraging future talk on the forums.)
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