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Oblivion is M?Do you mean Elder Scrolls Oblivion, or something other? TES:Oblivion is 12+ in germany, while Skyrim is 16+.
When we speak of age ratings, Fallout Nev Vegas comes to my mind. The original game was cut/censored in germany, but the Ultimate Edition (including all DLCs) was uncut and very bloody and brutal!
The german rating agency (BPJM) seems sometimes to decide wether to censor a game or not by rolling a dice!
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Maxvorstadt: Oblivion is M?Do you mean Elder Scrolls Oblivion, or something other? TES:Oblivion is 12+ in germany, while Skyrim is 16+.
When we speak of age ratings, Fallout Nev Vegas comes to my mind. The original game was cut/censored in germany, but the Ultimate Edition (including all DLCs) was uncut and very bloody and brutal!
The german rating agency (BPJM) seems sometimes to decide wether to censor a game or not by rolling a dice!
Almost everything seems to get rated 18+ here in the Netherlands. :l
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Maxvorstadt: Oblivion is M?Do you mean Elder Scrolls Oblivion, or something other? TES:Oblivion is 12+ in germany, while Skyrim is 16+.
When we speak of age ratings, Fallout Nev Vegas comes to my mind. The original game was cut/censored in germany, but the Ultimate Edition (including all DLCs) was uncut and very bloody and brutal!
The german rating agency (BPJM) seems sometimes to decide wether to censor a game or not by rolling a dice!
Yup, that [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB_re-rating_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion]very same Oblivion[/url].
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Maxvorstadt: TES:Oblivion is 12+ in germany
Yeah, that's astounding. I guess they just didn't play very far and never entered a portal.
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Elmofongo: Blood, Guts. Tits, and Fuck
;)
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toxicTom: America:

Blood: T
Guts: M
Tits: AO
Fuck: no can't do.

Germany:

Tits: 16+
Blood/Fuck: 18+
Guts: no can't do.

(though TBH in Germany it has become better since games are more acknowledged as an art form).
When I say fuck I mean the bad langauge not the sexual activity.
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toxicTom: America:

Blood: T
Guts: M
Tits: AO
Fuck: no can't do.

Germany:

Tits: 16+
Blood/Fuck: 18+
Guts: no can't do.

(though TBH in Germany it has become better since games are more acknowledged as an art form).
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Elmofongo: When I say fuck I mean the bad langauge not the sexual activity.
Well... Let me fix this then.

Germany:

Tits/Fuck: 16+
Blood: 18+
Guts: no can't do.
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Elmofongo: When I say fuck I mean the bad langauge not the sexual activity.
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real.geizterfahr: Well... Let me fix this then.

Germany:

Tits/Fuck: 16+
Blood: 18+
Guts: no can't do.
Just so you know there are M rated games that does show tits. Dragon Age INquisition,God of War, GTA 5, Metro Last Light, Heavy Rain, I think Hitman Absolution shows bare female posterior.
Post edited December 30, 2014 by Elmofongo
Sorry about the thread necro but I had another question that would fit best in this discussion:

Have there been any premium/"AAA" games since 2012 that have no gore/horror, no dark/gritty, and no nudity/similarly inappropriate stuff?
How can something be "premium" without being Mature??

Well, other than that, even children games have some sort of killing. For many people, a game is problematic and off limits, if it contains "sex" or nudity. Also, this is the main feature that makes or breaks a game, at least in people's eyes (persecution, ban, etc).

Unfortunately, MANY things are considered (and labelled) as mature. Nasty language, violence against others with discrimination against MINORITIES (like the nonhuman pogrom in Witcher), suggestive themes (womanizing, heavy drinking etc), DRUGS (another major stinker for many people, like Skooma in Elder Scrolls, Fisstech in the Witcher etc), gory combat (decapitation, bloodbaths, chopping off limbs or fatalities in Mortal Kombat), amoral world in general (the Witcher seems to be a real pro in that) and this is simply only the BULK of it all, not even close EVERYTHING that can define one game as being M rated...

What really happened is that the ratings get stricter all the time. As well as the regional locks/bans/censorship enforced. Nothing changed but those things:

1) Most gamers grew up and need their dose of mature content
2) Most modern gamers don't want their kids to play games rated M, even though they themselves as kiddies were enjoying games like Mortal Kombat, Diablo and GTA just fine
3) Ratings are so overrated. A while back, they did not even exist, lol
4) Companies realized that many people, especially those able and willing to pay for entertainment (themselves), really are after M rated stuff; especially those who pay upfront, day 1, preorder and pay thusly more than the game is actually worth
5) Put away those with nudity and sex and you are good to go; you 'll find quite some triple As this way.

I cannot name or suggest specific ones... I personally missed most, if not all, triple A games, just because they had heavy DRM, were exclusives to clients i really hate and would never use (at least anymore, from now onwards) and were too large and risky as files to download without paying, so i missed them. Only Skyrim i tried out a bit, but it was a tangled mess of bugs and glitches and didn't bother progressing more than few time after the prologue.
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DivisionByZero.620: Have there been any premium/"AAA" games since 2012 that have no gore/horror, no dark/gritty, and no nudity/similarly inappropriate stuff?
FIFA comes to mind. :)
I never really cared about ratings...