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dtgreene: By the way, how do you feel about the high notes on the opper woodwinds (piccolo, flute, clarinet)?
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Cavalary: They sound more... natural. Rather make me think of birdsong? But since I hear them sparingly, that may have something to do with it too? First one I thought of...
I'm very fond of very high vocals though.
Of course, when you mention "birdsong", it makes me think of the intro to Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring", which features a high bassoon solo. The bassoon *is* a woodwind, and the part is high (relative to the instrument's range), but the bassoon is clearly not an upper woodwind.

(Case in point: If I were to play that part on clarinet (appropriately transposed, of course), I wouldn't even think about the range, but on bassoon I do, and it's high enough that I need a harder 1st bassoon read to play it, as it won't come out on a softer 2nd bassoon reed.)

By the way, I do like high bassoon, and I also like low clarinet; the Bb clarinet can actually get down to (in concert pitch) the D below middle C, which is lower than most people not familiar with the instrument expect; even better, it's rather easy to play the clarinet in this range, so it can even be used in music meant for beginners.
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FireTiger_86: "Through the Fire and Flames" is great... on a piano.
I love those guys and that song. This is interesting, thanks for pointing that out.
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sanscript: In most cases I prefer mixes/remixes as they tend to be better than the original. And, modern rap is just crap.
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dtgreene: What I have found is that many of the remixes, at least those that come up on Youtube, are worse than the original because of things like:
* Introduction of electric guitar when the original didn't have it
* Getting rid of the counter-melody and/or counterpoint, leaving just the melody
* In some cases, even omitting the melody or waiting too long to introduce it. (One example of this is Celeste's Chapter 7 B-side music, which has very little melody, even though the original (A-side) has a strong melody,)

(The other half of your post I have no problem with.)
Then I would say we're like night and day; I think electric guitar is such a fundamental instrument that most songs would be empty without it. However, for me it really doesn't what people add or subtract in their mixes as long as it sounds good and clean.
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dtgreene: What I have found is that many of the remixes, at least those that come up on Youtube, are worse than the original because of things like:
* Introduction of electric guitar when the original didn't have it
* Getting rid of the counter-melody and/or counterpoint, leaving just the melody
* In some cases, even omitting the melody or waiting too long to introduce it. (One example of this is Celeste's Chapter 7 B-side music, which has very little melody, even though the original (A-side) has a strong melody,)

(The other half of your post I have no problem with.)
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sanscript: Then I would say we're like night and day; I think electric guitar is such a fundamental instrument that most songs would be empty without it. However, for me it really doesn't what people add or subtract in their mixes as long as it sounds good and clean.
What about all the songs written and performed before the electric guitar was invented?
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dtgreene: What about all the songs written and performed before the electric guitar was invented?
Maybe the original composer would've loved some electric guitar. No way to know because they're probably all dead now. ;-)
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sanscript: Then I would say we're like night and day; I think electric guitar is such a fundamental instrument that most songs would be empty without it. However, for me it really doesn't what people add or subtract in their mixes as long as it sounds good and clean.
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dtgreene: What about all the songs written and performed before the electric guitar was invented?
Well... Or just like so? (Then again, you probably don't want to click.)
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dtgreene: What about all the songs written and performed before the electric guitar was invented?
This reminds me of that fantastic and ageless question; "Why hasn't the original Star Trek a more modern look on the skips and the computers like it was recorded in the year [insert a much future year here]" O_o

EDIT: I'm eclectic so I practically like everything, and even though I wrote it's such a fundamental instrument, I didn't literally mean that most songs must/should have it, and "therefore I don't like everything before the e-guitar.
Post edited May 07, 2020 by sanscript