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You guys are talking about older games where I am talking about more modern titles or remakes of older titles such as the Ghostbusters game from 2006.
Games like Control, Shenmue 3 etc.
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mrkgnao: So does GOG.
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Fender_178: I can't name any PC game exclusives for GOG like I can for EGS. Can you tell me some to enlighten me.
There's probably more than a hundred, but here are the obvious ones, AFAIK:
- Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse
- D&D Stronghold: Kingdom Simulator
- Dungeons & Dragons: Dark Sun Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Krynn Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Ravenloft Series
- Fantasy General
- Final Liberation: Warhammer Epic 40,000
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection One
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Two
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Three
- Pacific General
- War Wind
- War Wind II: Human Onslaught
- Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat
- Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate
- Warhammer 40,000: Rites of War


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Fender_178: You guys are talking about older games where I am talking about more modern titles or remakes of older titles such as the Ghostbusters game from 2006.
Games like Control, Shenmue 3 etc.
You seem to imply that modern titles are somehow better than older ones, or that one should care about them more.

Control is available on GOG. Shenmue III is available on Humble Bundle.
Post edited October 10, 2020 by mrkgnao
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mrkgnao: So does GOG.
Honest question: are any of those "exclusive" in the sense that GOG has a signed agreement that says they can only be sold here? Or are they just "exclusives" because they're not being sold anywhere else right now, but legaly they totally could be?
Post edited October 10, 2020 by Breja
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Fender_178: I can't name any PC game exclusives for GOG like I can for EGS. Can you tell me some to enlighten me.
Even recently we got Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2. Do Blizzard even sell Diablo?

Manu older games are only sold through GOG. Mortal Kombat games?
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mrkgnao: So does GOG.
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Breja: Honest question: are any of those "exclusive" in the sense that GOG has a signed agreement that says they can only be sold here? Or are they just "exclusives" because they're not being sold anywhere else right now, but legaly they totally could be?
For the sixteen in post #47, I believe that GOG holds the current copyright. They can be sold elsewhere only if GOG allows it.

For most other titles, I believe it's just that nobody else bothered to negotiate sales rights, but GOG might have unknown exclusivity agreements.
Post edited October 10, 2020 by mrkgnao
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Fender_178: I can't name any PC game exclusives for GOG like I can for EGS. Can you tell me some to enlighten me.
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mrkgnao: There's probably more than a hundred, but here are the obvious ones, AFAIK:
- Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse
- D&D Stronghold: Kingdom Simulator
- Dungeons & Dragons: Dark Sun Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Krynn Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Ravenloft Series
- Fantasy General
- Final Liberation: Warhammer Epic 40,000
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection One
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Two
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Three
- Pacific General
- War Wind
- War Wind II: Human Onslaught
- Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat
- Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate
- Warhammer 40,000: Rites of War

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Fender_178: You guys are talking about older games where I am talking about more modern titles or remakes of older titles such as the Ghostbusters game from 2006.
Games like Control, Shenmue 3 etc.
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mrkgnao: You seem to imply that modern titles are somehow better than older ones, or that one should care about them more.

Control is available on GOG. Shenmue III is available on Humble Bundle.
I care about older titles but EGS has modern titles as exclusives which is the example I was making is all. Yeah I know that Control is on GOG I bought the game. With older titles them being exclusive to GOG I don't see a problem because in that case GOG is offering those games to those who either don't own the those titles or had them in the past and wanting to own them again and no one else is selling them except Ebay which could go for outlandish prices.
Post edited October 10, 2020 by Fender_178
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mrkgnao: There's probably more than a hundred, but here are the obvious ones, AFAIK:
- Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse
- D&D Stronghold: Kingdom Simulator
- Dungeons & Dragons: Dark Sun Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Krynn Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Ravenloft Series
- Fantasy General
- Final Liberation: Warhammer Epic 40,000
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection One
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Two
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Three
- Pacific General
- War Wind
- War Wind II: Human Onslaught
- Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat
- Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate
- Warhammer 40,000: Rites of War

You seem to imply that modern titles are somehow better than older ones, or that one should care about them more.

Control is available on GOG. Shenmue III is available on Humble Bundle.
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Fender_178: I care about older titles but EGS has modern titles as exclusives which is the example I was making is all. Yeah I know that Control is on GOG I bought the game. With older titles them being exclusive to GOG I don't see a problem because in that case GOG is offering those games to those who either don't own the those titles or had them in the past and wanting to own them again.
I understand your view, but it's not mine. To use your words, "EGS is offering those [modern exclusive] games to those who never owned them" just like "GOG is offering those [old exclusive] games to those who either don't own the those titles or had them in the past and wanting to own them again".

And just to be clear, I don't have an EGS account and don't even know what games they have. I understand that they have a mandatory client, which is enough for me to lose all interest.
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mrkgnao: There's probably more than a hundred, but here are the obvious ones, AFAIK:
- Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse
- D&D Stronghold: Kingdom Simulator
- Dungeons & Dragons: Dark Sun Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Krynn Series
- Dungeons & Dragons: Ravenloft Series
- Fantasy General
- Final Liberation: Warhammer Epic 40,000
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection One
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Two
- Forgotten Realms: The Archives - Collection Three
- Pacific General
- War Wind
- War Wind II: Human Onslaught
- Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat
- Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate
- Warhammer 40,000: Rites of War

You seem to imply that modern titles are somehow better than older ones, or that one should care about them more.

Control is available on GOG. Shenmue III is available on Humble Bundle.
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Fender_178: I care about older titles but EGS has modern titles as exclusives which is the example I was making is all. Yeah I know that Control is on GOG I bought the game. With older titles them being exclusive to GOG I don't see a problem because in that case GOG is offering those games to those who either don't own the those titles or had them in the past and wanting to own them again and no one else is selling them except Ebay which could go for outlandish prices.
gOg has also done timed exlusive for newer games, Project Warlock, for example, was a timed exlusive gOg release
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Fender_178: I care about older titles but EGS has modern titles as exclusives which is the example I was making is all. Yeah I know that Control is on GOG I bought the game. With older titles them being exclusive to GOG I don't see a problem because in that case GOG is offering those games to those who either don't own the those titles or had them in the past and wanting to own them again.
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mrkgnao: I understand your view, but it's not mine. To use your words, "EGS is offering those [modern exclusive] games to those who never owned them" just like "GOG is offering those [old exclusive] games to those who either don't own the those titles or had them in the past and wanting to own them again".

And just to be clear, I don't have an EGS account and don't even know what games they have. I understand that they have a mandatory client, which is enough for me to lose all interest.
Same with me I don't have an Epic account either because I don't support PC exclusives for modern titles because you can't get them any where else as far as the PC version goes until the time of the contract expires. With retro games there is Ebay if you can get the right price on said game. The reason why I know what games that EGS has is the free offering of games. Majority of them that you can get in other places such as Steam and GOG. But I do support GOG's way of having exclusives on older titles because it beats trying to search Ebay for decent prices on those games.
Post edited October 10, 2020 by Fender_178
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toxicTom: I'm aware that I'm only part of a tiny group without a Steam/Epic/UPlay/Origin/BattleNet/R* account, a group that can only be reached by releasing on GOG, itch.io or (DRM-free) Humble, but without our tiny group there would be no incentive at all to release some form of DRM-free version.
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toxicTom: My requirement for "DRM-free" includes that I could download by stuff from somewhere else - for instance if I don't have internet at home. That rules out clients you have to install just to download the games, since you can't install those on, say, a public library computer.
Deciding to not let Windows have internet access, I am in a similar position. I don't play internet-connected games, and this also filters out most of these types of game-manager programs and "one-click install from the store" platforms. Now every platform, and some stand-alone games, assumes its users have internet access constantly: can't connect to the internet so we won't let you launch any of your (non-real-GOG) games because Reasons: "you won't get participation trophies if you install any mods" and other modern nonsense.

Windows also likes to make a lot of assumptions when it has internet access, like installing updates and rebooting whenever it feels like, regardless of what users are doing. A horrible trend, will it ever end? I hope so.

I've enjoyed most of the games on GOG because I can download the installer, put it on a disc, install and play it whenever I want, like it was in 1998 but without the packaging.
Post edited October 10, 2020 by drm9009
Inferior to Steam, but very cunning, that's why they are trying to partner up with GOG.

But if they still the same DRM and spyware business model, no interest from me.

GOG is still the best with Steam being second.
My opinion? It's hard to really give a crap. I left Steam behind all the way back in 2012. Not really interested in DRMed games. GOG remains my go-to, really, even though CDP insists on chasing their hilarious little pipe dream of the uber-client.
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SpikedWallMan: That's a tremendously different situation. Valve makes Half-Life and owns Steam. If Valve wants to only sell their game on their own store that they have spent their own time/money to build, then they are entitled to do that.
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toxicTom: Meaning, if Epic had simply bought the studios that released exclusives there, and called them Epic #Number, it would have been fine?

The people who made Half-Life are not the same as the people who made Steam. They just happen to work under the same roof "Valve".
Actually...yes. I would not go as far as to say that "it would have been fine", but I would at least be more OK with Epic directly buying entire companies instead of the types of exclusivity deals that they're currently doing. The reason being that right now Epic can dangle a ridiculous amount of exclusivity money in front of a desperate indie studio and completely lay waste to the studio's brand development by restricting the visibility of their game - all without affecting Epic's bottom-line that much. However, if Epic was to buy a company then Epic directly bears the financial weight of whether the company's games are successful or not. Plus Epic would also be directly responsible for financing development, advertising, daily operations, etc. So in this case Epic actually has to at least somewhat care about the performance of the company that they are about to subject to EGS exclusivity. With this in mind, I am not as irritated by their purchase of the Rocket League dev as I am about some of Epic's other antics because I know that at the end of the day Epic will directly feel the pain of any bad decisions that they make regarding the Rocket League brand.
Post edited October 10, 2020 by SpikedWallMan
I played Mechwarrior Online for some time, I like Battletech. During that time, I did not support it, Piranha Games Inc. started a Kickstarter for the development of Mechwarrior 5, Steam was the platform of their choice.
The goal was funded and the game was on it's way. Halfway Piranha Games suddenly announced that MWO 5 would be an Epic Games exculsive, they did not even alter their Kickstarter page at first.

A lot of supporters and big part of their community were furious. Refunds were offered by Piranha games Inc..

Never visited the Epic Games web page, have no interest in their platform/store.

I only made a Steam Account out of protest, broke my rules, when GOG announced the bundling of offline installers with Galaxy and an opt out. Which luckily did not happen, because there was an uproar in the GOG community. This time I guess we are talking about Epic Games money and it seems, the wallet is so big, that companies have no problem pissing off their customers/community big time.
Post edited October 10, 2020 by Arundir
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Arundir: I played Mechwarrior Online for some time, I like Battletech. During that time, I did not support it, Piranha Games Inc. started a Kickstarter for the development of Mechwarrior 5, Steam was the platform of their choice.
The goal was funded and the game was on it's way. Halfway Piranha Games suddenly announced that MWO 5 would be an Epic Games exculsive, they did not even alter their Kickstarter page at first.
Funny, I had completely forgotten that Mechwarrior 5 even exists until you reminded me just now. I was excited about it up until the Epic exclusive announcement, but after that I lost interest. That's what happens with EGS games - I decide not to buy until after it's on sale on other platforms, and then I get distracted with other things to play. At any rate, maybe it will make to GOG soon.

Now, if GOG was to release complete editions of Mechwarrior 1-4 and Mechcommander 1-2...that would be such a bad day for my wallet... (Make it happen GOG - you know you want to.)
Post edited October 10, 2020 by SpikedWallMan