Posted August 26, 2025

Braggadar
Discombobulate
Registered: Mar 2018
From Australia

.erercott
雅
Registered: Sep 2024
From United States
Posted August 26, 2025
Germany had adblockers back then? No? Well, in all honesty, this is why I prefer ripped content. I've watched ads on my alone time. There's nothing quite like watching VHS rips with ads in them...so...I don't know...it's kind of out of proportion to call someone a pirate when a pirate is free.

Reznov64
Preservation is a lie
Registered: Aug 2021
From United States
Posted August 26, 2025
I was making a joke about World War 2 but yeah, the UK is using George Orwell's 1984 as a guide to controlling its populace.

Timboli
Sharpest Tool On Shelf
Registered: May 2017
From Australia
Posted August 26, 2025

An old court case in Germany was revived and ad blockers being classified as copyright infringement is back on the table.
Me blocking adverts on my PC, has no impact on other folk, so it is very much a personal thing and no way any person can be legally forced to watch something (adverts) they don't want to see.
In fact, the whole forced adverts thing is anti-consumer ... at least for those who have no wish to watch adverts.
So while adverts might help finance shows etc, that is no excuse for them being forced upon folk who don't want to see them. They should be opt in, a voluntary thing.
Take myself for instance. I might watch something that includes adverts, but I don't watch the adverts. So in no way shape or form are those adverts achieving anything by way of me, except to make me dislike, hate even, those who are enforcing such. Just a completely stupid dichotomy.
I hate them, because they are disruptive and often spoil a mood, and because something is being forced on me that I absolutely have no interest in. And I am a great believer in not subjecting myself to crap ... there is enough rubbish in my head already.
If we were to look at angst in the world, I think we would find that forced adverts contribute considerably. If they didn't, then why do so many of us go to efforts to avoid them.
So do we really want additional angst in the world? Don't we already have enough.
Just a completely stupid dichotomy.
Yes, I just repeated myself ... but it deserves repeating ... unlike so many of those adverts.
Post edited August 26, 2025 by Timboli

Xeshra
RPG Geek with Monster PC
Registered: May 2011
From Switzerland
Posted August 26, 2025

I was mostly able to get ride of as good as any advertisement but it was really a lot of sweat and i sometimes have to switch out blockers in order to avoid blockers, doing a lot of "debloating" on new smartphones and of course always install custom browers of which not much more than one (Mozilla)... is still not linked to the Google-infrastructure.. and that one barely is able to survive.
Guess the law may even see my actions as "avoiding DRM" as this entire advertisement-infrastructure is basically a computer-program and software trying to force me "in order to watch and use it the way it has been intended". I still consider it my freedom to use and watch it DRM free... no matter if it could already be considered "gray" from a legal point of view.
Yeah, DRM is on many spots, only need to open the eyes.
It is not fairy tale... from a legal point of view, using a add blocker is already some sort of "avoiding DRM" because it is a software using a certain form of DRM, nothing else. However... there are not many countries comparable to Germany who are that much "anti-consumer" when it comes to software such as Germany; i guess they really got many of the most consumer-hostile politicians there together with a industry making very one-sided laws.
Of course any sort of "modification" of a DRMed code (of any software) can as well be seen as a violation but... they was noticing themself that is does not hold many truth if it comes to addblockers as a addblocker is only changing the users frontend, while not making any modification to the sites "backend". Basically it is only changing the way how a user is receiving its content but not actually changing its proprietary data at its source... which can indeed be seen as some form of "adaption".
Sure "piracy" is not the correct word, as it is widely considered to be used on other rather exorbitant terms, although even small (copyright) violations are sometimes not legal, but it totally depends on a countries laws as usual.
Post edited August 26, 2025 by Xeshra

Braggadar
Discombobulate
Registered: Mar 2018
From Australia
Posted August 27, 2025
You mean you don't like flicking on the telly late morning and watching the slew of funeral and life insurance adverts? Who would have thought that being reminded of death every 10 minutes isn't an enjoyable experience? :P

Timboli
Sharpest Tool On Shelf
Registered: May 2017
From Australia
Posted August 29, 2025

In reality, it is a rare day you catch me watching commercial channels these days. I enjoy a number of things on the ABC and some on SBS, and I have a special downloader anyway, so I watch when I feel like watching. And in all truth, I could just watch my backlog of purchased discs and never have time to watch anything else ... only so many hours in a day etc.

Post edited August 29, 2025 by Timboli

SultanOfSuave
A user
Registered: May 2014
From United Kingdom
Posted August 29, 2025
So, when do we get to the point where the devices have to be fitted with cameras to view certain things, and that camera tracks your eyes to ensure that you watch the advert in its entirety? Well, hopefully never, but I have noticed that certain sites have been attempting a this is a very rudimentary and easily circumvented form, where if the browser tab isn't active the advert will stop playing...

Shmacky-McNuts
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From United States
Posted August 29, 2025
Adverts are to me, a measure of products to avoid.
"Here you go. Dont buy this. Because the people that paid for the advertising would rather harass others into buying it over casual find by need seeking."
If you live in the States. Advertising is literal brain washing. The irony is some folks proved it worked in a UK documentary, about the power of suggestion.
"Here you go. Dont buy this. Because the people that paid for the advertising would rather harass others into buying it over casual find by need seeking."
If you live in the States. Advertising is literal brain washing. The irony is some folks proved it worked in a UK documentary, about the power of suggestion.

Mr. Zim
Did we ever find a way ? -He/Him-
Registered: Jul 2013
From Netherlands
Posted August 31, 2025

"Here you go. Dont buy this. Because the people that paid for the advertising would rather harass others into buying it over casual find by need seeking."
If you live in the States. Advertising is literal brain washing. The irony is some folks proved it worked in a UK documentary, about the power of suggestion.
I hope you can forgive me for calling me dear
edit
yes i drank a few, no drugs tho
this time dutch brew corona
Post edited August 31, 2025 by Mr. Zim

paladin181
Cheese
Registered: Nov 2012
From United States
Posted August 31, 2025
Als long ad ads can illegally store data on my machine and modify code on my machine, I will block them without a second thought. Ads as they are cannot be deemed legal since almost all of them put informations and files on your PC without your permission.

Mugiwarah
Gwynbleidd
Registered: May 2018
From Belgium
Posted August 31, 2025
Running a fork of firefox with more privacy options and all the tracker blocking enabled + ublock origins set up to block every third party and third party scrips and i whitlist script for websites the first time i visit them, this way i get a clean and fast browsing without any distraction.

argamasa
Stuck in the 90's
Registered: Jan 2015
From Spain
Posted August 31, 2025
I use Brave on the mobile phone, works very well blocking ads and banners.