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GameRager: At least he posted it ONCE, and not many times like "some" seem to be doing.
Actually, I think I saw Darvond posting his list in multiple topics. Just fyi :)

Anyway, you may be interested to know that wishlist votes to keep GOG Downloader cracked the 400 mark, now at 405 and counting...people are voting every day on this. Not too late to add your voice to the cause too.
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GameRager: This will sound rude/harsh, but: You should tell that to those judging GOG for what it did.

Also people have alternatives....so it's not like they have nothing at all.....the current best options(seeing as GOG likely will not be changing their minds) are more or less as follows:

1. Use one of the alternatives or the browser. - There are no alternatives (red my post again)
2. Make a new one(for those that know how and want to help out) - If I could make on I would not complain
3. Not buy from-DL from GOG. - You think that would make me feel better - really funny
There was a reason I left the other thread and its answers like this. Answers that were talking about alternatives even though I explicitely explained that (and why) those are NOT true alternatives for me and that those so called alternatives don't do exactly the same. So again we will go in circles and I don't plan to waste my time doing this again.
Post edited March 24, 2020 by MarkoH01
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rjbuffchix: Actually, I think I saw Darvond posting his list in multiple topics. Just fyi :)
Likely to make sure everyone reading such would likely see it....and he only posted such once in each thread.

But your point is still somewhat valid, I think.

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rjbuffchix: Anyway, you may be interested to know that wishlist votes to keep GOG Downloader cracked the 400 mark, now at 405 and counting...people are voting every day on this. Not too late to add your voice to the cause too.
405 people out of maybe 400,000 or more.....to put things into perspective.

Also this is gonna sound uncaring, but: why would I vote for what is likely to be a lost cause(asking GOG for such via wishlist, I mean, not ANY/ALL methods to try and get the GOG DLer back)?

(Especially with Timboli's new possible alternative that he just posted in a prior post ITT maybe working for said people. BTW speaking of that, did you see it yet? It's a few posts before this post of yours that I quoted just now :))
Post edited March 25, 2020 by GameRager
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StingingVelvet: If you're gonna use a separate app to download files, other than a browser, why does it matter if it's the downloader or Galaxy? I don't really get it, and I'm not trying to be snarky.
In my case, it's because my download speeds were super fast when using the Downloader, but are extremely slow when using Galaxy. So it's not that I necessarily hate Galaxy, it's just that I hate being forced into using a method that takes two-to-three times longer to download games.

Additionally, I see this as one step closer to a DRM scheme not unlike Steam. I'm usually okay with Steam, but you knew what it was from the start. In contrast, GOG made a name for itself by touting it's DRM-free and will always be that way.

Maybe that was true when it was "Good Old Games," but nowadays they're vying for new titles and I think the only way many publishers will allow their games on GOG is by implementing some form of DRM, even if it's relatively weak and ineffective.

I mean, it's no coincidence that Galaxy resembles Steam (and from what I've heard, Galaxy 2.0 continues this trend) and has added ridiculous items, like achievements. GOG was never about the "dudebro" market, but I guess that's where the real money is so they're headed in that direction.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by DeadPoolX
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MarkoH01: 1. Use one of the alternatives or the browser. - There are no alternatives (read my post again)
Timboli just made one, actually(he talks about it in a post a bit back in this thread). Hopefully it may be of help to you and others who need/want such.

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MarkoH01: 3. Not buy from-DL from GOG. - You think that would make me feel better - really funny
It wasn't meant to be funny/seen as a joke.....it is just the likely sad truth of how things are for some users here.

(Well unless they maybe have luck with Timboli's new program/app/thing he just put together, which I hope is a viable solution for some here who need or want such)

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MarkoH01: There was a reason I left the other thread and its answers like this. Answers that were talking about alternatives even though I explicitly explained that (and why) those are NOT true alternatives for me and that those so called alternatives don't do exactly the same.
To clarify: I posted it/such for a bunch of those posting about this...not any one person(you/anyone else) specifically.


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DeadPoolX: In my case, it's because my download speeds were super fast when using the Downloader, but are extremely slow when using Galaxy. So it's not that I necessarily hate Galaxy, it's just that I hate being forced into using a method that takes two-to-three times longer to download games.
Good/fair points, though I would like to ask if I may: Can't you do other things while the DLs are taking place(via browser or galaxy)?

What about playing other games while waiting, for example?

Or is your internet/pc too slow to do much else while DLs are taking place(I know that's an issue for some)?
Post edited March 25, 2020 by GameRager
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GameRager: What about playing other games while waiting, for example?

Or is your internet/pc too slow to do much else while DLs are taking place(I know that's an issue for some)?
I could do that (and I have done it before when downloading huge games, like Hitman 2 on Steam which is around 150 GB), but that's not a real solution. The problem here is that I shouldn't be forced to use a much, much slower method to download games when a much, much faster one exists.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by DeadPoolX
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DeadPoolX: I could do that (and I have done it before when downloading huge games, like Hitman 2 on Steam which is around 150 GB), but that's not a real solution. The problem here is that I shouldn't be forced to use a much, much slower method to download games when a much, much faster one exists.
But if you have enough games on hand & can do things in the meantime why is it a problem(or at least a sizable one)?

Also how is it much slower(browser, I mean)?

Anecdotal, but my own downloads go at the full DL rate(or close to it) of my ISP service via my browser(of course others may differ a bit depending on connection and browser choice).

Finally, did you look into TimBoli's post(Post# 241 in this thread) yet? I think he cobbled together a new alternative which may help some such as yourself.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by GameRager
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DeadPoolX: Additionally, I see this as one step closer to a DRM scheme not unlike Steam. I'm usually okay with Steam, but you knew what it was from the start. In contrast, GOG made a name for itself by touting it's DRM-free and will always be that way.

Maybe that was true when it was "Good Old Games," but nowadays they're vying for new titles and I think the only way many publishers will allow their games on GOG is by implementing some form of DRM, even if it's relatively weak and ineffective.
Using an app to download an offline, DRM free installer is not DRM.
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DeadPoolX: I could do that (and I have done it before when downloading huge games, like Hitman 2 on Steam which is around 150 GB), but that's not a real solution. The problem here is that I shouldn't be forced to use a much, much slower method to download games when a much, much faster one exists.
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GameRager: But if you have enough games on hand & can do things in the meantime why is it a problem(or at least a sizable one)?

Also how is it much slower(browser, I mean)?

Anecdotal, but my own downloads go at the full DL rate(or close to it) of my ISP service via my browser(of course others may differ a bit depending on connection and browser choice).

Finally, did you look into TimBoli's post(Post# 241 in this thread) yet? I think he cobbled together a new alternative which may help some such as yourself.
My browser isn't slower, Gog Galaxy is slower. Anything I download using Galaxy is super slow, whereas the Downloader was super fast.

For small games, it won't matter, but if I have a very large game to download, through Galaxy it could take hours, possibly the entire evening or more to download! With the Downloader, it'd be over quick.

Why does it matter? Because there's a viable option that's much faster and it's being removed for no good reason.

Considering GOG's prices are almost always higher than Steam, I really don't see an incentive to buy from GOG anymore. Not when my download speeds are horrendous with it as well.
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DeadPoolX: Additionally, I see this as one step closer to a DRM scheme not unlike Steam. I'm usually okay with Steam, but you knew what it was from the start. In contrast, GOG made a name for itself by touting it's DRM-free and will always be that way.

Maybe that was true when it was "Good Old Games," but nowadays they're vying for new titles and I think the only way many publishers will allow their games on GOG is by implementing some form of DRM, even if it's relatively weak and ineffective.
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StingingVelvet: Using an app to download an offline, DRM free installer is not DRM.
That's why I said it's one step closer. And some games still have a light form of DRM, such as making Galaxy necessary to play online or play co-op.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by DeadPoolX
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DeadPoolX: My browser isn't slower, Gog Galaxy is slower. Anything I download using Galaxy is super slow, whereas the Downloader was super fast.
Then why not use the browser OR Timboli's suggestion/thing in Post 241?

Also again: What does speed matter if one can do other things in the mean time? It's not like any of us need to play a game right away.

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DeadPoolX: Why does it matter? Because there's a viable option that's much faster and it's being removed for no good reason.
Tbh I don't think they just said basically "eh, we'll just pull this for no good reason" or similar....also there are other options, so it's not like we cannot do anything to get our games.

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DeadPoolX: Considering GOG's prices are almost always higher than Steam, I really don't see an incentive to buy from GOG anymore. Not when my download speeds are horrendous with it as well.
What about drm-free single player? Or are you okay with giving up drm-free to get games DLed faster(it's ok if you are)?
I think I'll stop buying from GOG. I tried to download using Free Download Manager. What a mess. I did select all goodies, click download selected, but all I got was index.something html files. And when choosing to download with Firefox I have to manually browse to the proper subfolder for every file as Firefox doesn't remember the last file location no mere. I dearly miss the ease and simplicity of the GOG downloader.

I don't know any good alternatives for GOG, but my backlog is huge anyway.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by DubConqueror
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DubConqueror: I think I'll stop buying from GOG. I tried to download using Free Download Manager. What a mess. I did select all goodies, click download selected, but all I got was index.something html files. And when choosing to download with Firefox I have to manually browse to the proper subfolder for every file as Firefox doesn't remember the last file location no mere. I dearly miss the ease and simplicity of the GOG downloader.

I don't know any good alternatives for GOG, but my backlog is huge anyway.
Not to force you from your desired path if you're set on it, but did you check Post 241 by Timboli? It seems to indicate he cobbled together his own thing to DL games....might be worth a look, at any rate.

Anyways, whatever you choose, I wish the best of luck to you.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by GameRager
LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date

I see the number has jumped a good bit since I last posted ... now 429. Keep it up good folk.

FOR THOSE WHO WANT SOME KIND OF SOLUTION TO OUR DILEMMA
See my post above - https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_do_not_want_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post155

For those who are interested, here are some screenshots of my program. Just a simple look focused on the practical.

GOGDownload Checker Screenshots

The program is coming along nicely, and I should be finished soon.

That said, and one of the reasons I am only posting here, in this thread, is because I would still rather have the GOG Downloader than my partial substitute. I don't really want to distract from that message to GOG, while also sending a message to those who may need to hear it, that not all hope is lost for archiving without using Galaxy.

Another reason I post this similar post so regularly here, is because things do get lost in the wash in a long thread, with people often only checking the last few messages and probably the first few. Plus I like to tease GameRager, who endlessly repeats himself, so he is a fine one to accuse me. ;)

There will be time enough for me or another to do a separate thread, if needed.
Remembering too that a thread even if liked tends to disappear fairly quickly, if no-one posts in it.
And this thread is still getting regular replies.

I am still hoping GOG will reconsider and restore the GOG Downloader ... or give us something new of similar ability and impact.
Post edited March 25, 2020 by Timboli
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vsr: GOG should develop a cross-platform downloader tool (based on GNU Wget or something), which will work on all OS (GNU/Linux, MacOS, WIndows).
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Fogamer: The old Windows Downloader was working fine already, till the end. It's just their strategy, they want to discontinue standalone-installers and enforce DRM through the backdoor with Galaxy.

For my part, when the downloader died I had decided to not buy from GOG again. Bye bye downloader == bye bye GOG.
It was not working on Windows XP.
That problem was connected with .Net platform used as a basis for GOG Downloader.

Next time they should rely on lightweight Open Source Cross-platform technologies (lightweight means "Not using Electron/Chromium" as a basis).
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GameRager: Tbh I don't think they just said basically "eh, we'll just pull this for no good reason" or similar....
Now I'm curious...could you please articulate a "good reason" for removing Downloader, i.e. one that is relevant to the user/noticeably improves the user's experience? Granted this will vary from user to user, but it seems that the people unhappy with GOG's decision to remove Downloader do not find the stated reasoning to be "good reason".