Yeah this sucks that they got rid of WCIII Classic. Lucky for me I still own my original discs plus on another PC I own the old setup files for both WCIII + the expansion. Blizzard is really batting 1000 here. I wish Blizzard would have done what they did with the Starcraft remastered is added an HD skin to it. Even though I am not having any issues playing the WCIII reforged like others are having I still would like to have access to WCIII classic. Thanks to this crappery that has happened I have no confidence in Blizzard to make a D2 remastered properly.

Same here (+HDD backups)
What Blizzard is doing perfectly illustrates why DRM is bad. For people who bought the original digital/online version of WCIII, at least they can turn off automatic updating (for now?) or find an 'abandonware' version of the game they originally paid for.

edit: I'm talking about single player / campaign.

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ideally the original would come here, but if nothing else maybe GOG could negotiate a bundle of the original + Reforgery. (overpriced of course, but hey, at least it'd bring the original here; throw in Starcraft 1 + Brood Wars for free ;)

I hope GOG focuses on bringing Diablo II instead, in time for the 20th anniversary next June. If Blizzard had the smallest temptation of announcing a big remaster for it, this debacle should give them a hint...

Oh I have essentially no doubt GOG would prioritize Diablo II over Warcraft 3, or probably any other Blizz title. (I find it pretty unlikely it'll come here any time soon but would certainly love for it to show up.) That said, afaik, aside from Reforgey, basically any more Warcraft games here is better than none showing up ever again. (and even then, I don't really think GOG should reject Reforgey if they got the chance to bring it; it'd probably be financially worthwhile for GOG)

The main thing people have a problem with is undelivered promises like new cutscenes, new voice-over lines with the ability to choose between the new and the old and many more. Otherwise, it is the same game just with new models and textures.

Even the mission they showed at Blizzcon with a new cutscene (The Culling of Stratholme) still uses the same old cutscenes in the release version. This led to people bombing the game with zeroes, because it was simply false advertising. Even after release, the marketing material for the game still said it contains things which it does not. Add to that the reluctance to issue refunds at first and the fanbase the size of Blizzard community and you have a PR disaster on your hands. If you rate strictly the things they have done for the remake, it is basically nothing besides new models and textures and claiming any and all custom games for themselves.

It is also obvious that different people made the models, different people made the unit portraits and different people made the map graphics (terrain, trees etc.). Everything looks good individually but as a whole, it is extremely dissonant. Some things are hyper-realistic, some things are still super cartoony and it just doesn't look well together.

blizzard also made it so you can play the original warcraft 3 if you own wc3 reforged, i got a refund, also they jsut dnt seem to care about there games, overwatch esports is now only on youtube i think thats for all blizzard esports cos they couldnt strike a deal with twitch, then theres wow when i remember them saying they want more communication with the players, that went to shit, and the thing that pissed me off the most about wow is that game director ion hazzikostas said in a interview that they removed pvp vendors cos players couldnt find them, are you serious ion how dumb do you think your community are.

also there was the diablo immortal fiasco from blizzcon 2018 which got alot more hate than the current wc3 reforged thing, the fact they announced a mobile game at a blizzcon which is primarily pc gamers is just dumb, and if blizz had a brain they could have teased D4 at blizzcon 2018 and then it wouldnt have been as bad, then theres overwatch 2 whats the point of this game you can jsut add the storys and lore to the original game, dnt get me wrong the ow2 cinematic was good but the lore behind the heroes of overwatch, i couldnt give a shit.

hearthstone is just a pay 2 win disaster and bred the term RNG sports, and expansions for it cost more than wow expansions.

HOTS had potential but blizz fucked that up by pulling the plug on its esports out of the blue.

only thing that im excited for is maybe D4 and the new wow expansion, dnt c are about any of there other stuff.

I think they'd just hired a single designer and were planning to make this game the most profitable project with the lowest budget ever:)

Yeah I agree, the remaster looks really inconsistent. One of the great things about Warcraft 3 was that while being overly simplistic looking (it was Blizzards first 3d-polygon game), it was really cohesive in its artstyle and Blizzard deservedly recieved lots of praise because of that.

Compared to the classic WC3/TFT this remaster feels really off, not that I care much about that stuff. I've been playing a lot of amateurish/unprofessional looking games throughout my life. Some of them also stand out in similar ways as the remaster does. Though I can say that many of these games don't seem to be that jarring in their artstyle. It really seems like that Activision didn't care about quality control this time. Or maybe they think that these remaster games are "for the old boomers" as people like to say nowadays and expected this game to not sell so they spend their resources on other games instead.

the problem is, if you own wc3 reforged you cant play the original WC3 cos it requires battle net, so to play original wc3 u need to get a refund on wc3 reforged