The way you phrase is like the UN does anything ever...

But anyways, you are blaming a single guy of the laws of the country he represents, yet not lives in, we don't know how the guy sees those violations of Human Rights personally anyway, he may do a good job, or he may say that anything that is out of the Sharia Law is a flagrant violation of Human Right's, who knows...is not like anybody takes the UN seriously anyway...

Kinda more worried about your country wanting Turkey into the EU, which does affect us a lot more.

Their country, their rules. No one is forcing us to go there right now. As long as they keep their rules to themselves I don't see any reason why you should complain, unless doing this helps you feel superior and "civilized" than those "savages".

Not sure about you but I take at least a modicum of satisfaction that my country doesn't chop peoples heads off for blasphemy and witchcraft. Or publicly lashing someone who insulted a barbaric creed that has resulted in the arrested development of the arab world.

Not that savage I think. So its a start.

He was already retarded if you didn't see it by his first post.
Saying a wahhabist (even worse than normal shitslam) country has the same standards and freedoms as Western European countries, hah!
Even their own princes live in Europe/America to party and fuck whatever they want.
Maybe the ultrarich men's wives can drive cars, but the drivers licences certainly aren't from saudi DMV

Well, that's kinda retarded and hypocritical.
They can come here and demand their rules and customs be praised and fille and then you say our customs and habits are shit and only to serve to feel superiour to those "noble savages".
Nice.

It is no joke.

Of course UK sells Saudis quite a few weapons - which the latter uses in the way it sees fit from its wahabbist perspective. And the former sponsors council spot..

But does not Germany do so too? Power and arms traffic that is.

Finland did, and I find this a bluaady shame! But the current government will not mind because it is the most right wing ever in our history. Regardless of how Saudis might use our grenade-throwers, including flogging them unto wahabbist factions abroad - no matter.

I hate to admit - Sweden did better.

nvm

+1 for Volker Pispers quote.

Sorcery! lol wut

Which is working as well as it should...

The only time the UN managed to do anything was during the Yugoslavian wars, and since then it's been only there to allow multi millionaire actresses to cry about how oppressed women are in the West, and make sensationalist reports about things and apologizing for them couple of weeks later...

Not even the UN cares about the UN.

Is that the guardian? the same page which has journalist talking about how afraid they are their daughters won't ever be proud of their poop? ._.

Its an criminal offence there. Which peope have been executed for. The last guy had some talisman or some bollocks and they chopped his head off.

I am not makig this up

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I know it is but.... sorcery? Really? How... primitive.

Precisely. It's so stupid, it's quite baffling. As if the EU needs or can handle almost 100 million piss-poor, uneducated people now or in the foreseeable future.

As is the policy of paying Turkey for "securing" their borders to prevent floods of illegal immigrants stupid, when that is something *we* should be doing. I don't even comprehend the logic behind that decision.

With 3BN Euro I'm sure Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy and Spain could secure the southern borders of the EU just fine. Fuck Turkey. They're both incapable and unwilling to do anything about this, it isn't their concern to begin with. They're just siphoning immigrants into the EU willy-nilly because they don't care. Paying them won't make them care.

Turkey currently illegally occupies an EU nation, pretends they never committed one of the most atrocious genocides of the 20th century, bats a blind eye to terrorist extremists such as ISIS and is the conduit through which ISIS sells their oil and finances itself and yet they think they can become part of the EU.. good grief. I think Merkel is batshit insane.

I think she really only cares about her lobbies and income and this always was the case in her amoral hardcore capitalist party. Turkey is one of the main customers of arms made in Germany.

What about we don't pay Turkey for sending Terrorists to Europe, and also we take in consideration them violating the NATO directives and taking down Russian planes? Seems like a plan to me...if we were to pay Turkey properly for their "help" we would be preparing a military expedition, not giving them freebies, but that is the way I see it, and I'm apparently ignorant.

Dunno about the other four but Spain doesn't need money, what Spain needs is greenlight to protect our own sovereignty and borders. But since Northerners live on the illusion that our borders are somehow not their borders we are not going to have that. So if we put a razor wire curtain and make a deal with Morocco so the immigrants jumping the borders are taken back to the Sahara straight away, we have them bitching. If we round them up in Detention until we make sure they are not terrorists, we have them bitching, if we don't give them designer clothes, halal foods and all that crap, Europe points us angrily and bitches. And If we had true representatives we would tell them to fuck off, but since we don't we can only bitch back.

I don't care one way or another, we have all committed Genocides at some point in our histories. I care about the now, and that is that apparently Turkey can enter in the EU with less than a tenth of the requirements Spain had to go through to enter. And that they are trying to drag NATO to a war with Russia. Any answer that is not isolating them diplomatically and letting them sort themselves out is going to fuck Europe up, but hey that is kinda something Germans seem to love doing anyway so...