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nightcraw1er.488: Merely a blip, these things never go away. They just keep trying to push them through until apathy outweighs concern. Governments are years behind so no legislation or anything.
yep they will
governments are not behind , they just look away as they paid to
NFTs are truely an absolute apex of humanities genius!

Those absolutely miserable stupid motherfuckers who make them and the even bigger dumbasses who buy them are all the same fucking ouroboros. What a genius capitalist business idea! Nothing better than instead of printing your own money, you create your own business bubble and pretend it means something instead.
Post edited December 09, 2021 by Dray2k
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Alexim: https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/ubisoft-de-lists-overwhelmingly-disliked-nft-announcement-video/

Ahahaha!

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Orkhepaj: yep they will
governments are not behind , they just look away as they paid to
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Alexim:
Nice! That means there is general awareness. So sorry for the investment Ubisoft made... :)

About gov... laziness, incompetence and corruption as usual. But the digital world cannot continue as a lawless Wild West forever...
With how grindy ubisoft games are atm, it's more likely someone will add a trainer / mod or just outright find other ways to get them.

It's like when ubisoft had pay2win in valhalla with XP boosts and such, modders made ways to just break the system and edit save games with 2000 points to use on skills.

These days i wouldn't play ubisoft games without trainers / mods that bypass the grind they add in, it's not worth playing it without them. Adding in NFT's is just another step towards ubisoft getting worse than EA... and seriously EA was the worst company of them all and now ubi is trying to become worse? Single player game pay2win and now NFT's? Are they trying to shoot themselves in the foot?


Remember when that guy in australia literally copied 420GB of nft items and posted them in a torrent? yeah, ubisoft gonna get that sort of hit on their NFT if they do this sort of system. It's all digital and if you have the skin downloaded on 1 pc it could likely be copied over to anyone else after that. If they try to push forward with this plan, they'll likely get buried, EA was the one's who said NFT's were the future and no one should listen to EA with their history and current business model still being at the worst end of the game industry, Riot in 2nd and EGS being third in terms of things right after them in my books.
Post edited December 10, 2021 by TheLastSeeker
Looks like even the hard up football clubs are having to push these as well:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59596267

Otherwise they won’t be able to beat the previous highest player purchase amount each year…
To all the people who think Crypto is the future: Why can't you cash out Bitcoin? Why can't you walk to an ATM on the streets and cash out your bitcoin in your national currency? Why doesn't Steam, Amazon, Alibaba, Wish and all the major online stores accept Bitcoin?
Post edited December 10, 2021 by Crosmando
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Crosmando: To all the people who think Crypto is the future: Why can't you cash out Bitcoin? Why can't you walk to an ATM on the streets and cash out your bitcoin in your national currency? Why doesn't Steam, Amazon, Alibaba, Wish and all the major online stores accept Bitcoin?
hmm you can in some cities
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Crosmando: To all the people who think Crypto is the future: Why can't you cash out Bitcoin? Why can't you walk to an ATM on the streets and cash out your bitcoin in your national currency? Why doesn't Steam, Amazon, Alibaba, Wish and all the major online stores accept Bitcoin?
It only has value because people say it does... most people treat crypto like another stock.
I mean if we could really say it is the same with national currency, if that countries currency isn't backed by something like gold and silver like the USA's money used to be backed by.
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Crosmando: To all the people who think Crypto is the future: Why can't you cash out Bitcoin? Why can't you walk to an ATM on the streets and cash out your bitcoin in your national currency? Why doesn't Steam, Amazon, Alibaba, Wish and all the major online stores accept Bitcoin?
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aCyborg: It only has value because people say it does... most people treat crypto like another stock.
I mean if we could really say it is the same with national currency, if that countries currency isn't backed by something like gold and silver like the USA's money used to be backed by.
it is backed up by the tax and trade system
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aCyborg: It only has value because people say it does... most people treat crypto like another stock.
I mean if we could really say it is the same with national currency, if that countries currency isn't backed by something like gold and silver like the USA's money used to be backed by.
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Orkhepaj: it is backed up by the tax and trade system
Todays money isn't backed up at all. Even if people just would turn their bank account money to notes and coins there wouldn't be enough - Greek is the best example years ago. The old concept was that one Dollar was 1/x of the available gold. We just traded with some kind of stocks. Today we need to trust we still will be able to recieve that gold - if people would do that with enough money, sooner or later those people cannot get more because everything has been traded.

aCyborg is completely right: money itself has no value. Money exist because we trust in the system that we can get everything we need with that. In Turkey it is better to have your money in Dollars instead of Lira at the moment. When Germany was divided, there were special markets called "Intershop" where you could buy exclusive goodst - but you had to pay with the West Germany currency, they didn't accept the East German currency.
Gold is similar to money anyway. Even if all the money is still backed up, who really needs gold? The practical use of gold is non-existant for common people: you can't eat it, you can't really build something with that like a house. It is just shiny, a rare resource and it is useful for cables.
If enough people trust Monopoly money, you could even use that instead. That's also how Cryptocurrency works.

Edit: back to NFTs: If Ubisoft wants to do this they could start converting our games to that system. Yeah, I could trade some skins but why stop there? Let's trade the whole game like back in the days when games weren't bound on accounts but retail boxes where the biggest pain was some intrusive copy protection like TAGES and Securom - at least you were able to give that to someone else. No? Would that hurt your company? Aww....
Post edited December 13, 2021 by Lesser
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Orkhepaj: it is backed up by the tax and trade system
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Lesser: Todays money isn't backed up at all. Even if people just would turn their bank account money to notes and coins there wouldn't be enough - Greek is the best example years ago. The old concept was that one Dollar was 1/x of the available gold. We just traded with some kind of stocks. Today we need to trust we still will be able to recieve that gold - if people would do that with enough money, sooner or later those people cannot get more because everything has been traded.

aCyborg is completely right: money itself has no value. Money exist because we trust in the system that we can get everything we need with that. In Turkey it is better to have your money in Dollars instead of Lira at the moment. When Germany was divided, there were special markets called "Intershop" where you could buy exclusive goodst - but you had to pay with the West Germany currency, they didn't accept the East German currency.
Gold is similar to money anyway. Even if all the money is still backed up, who really needs gold? The practical use of gold is non-existant for common people: you can't eat it, you can't really build something with that like a house. It is just shiny, a rare resource and it is useful for cables.
If enough people trust Monopoly money, you could even use that instead. That's also how Cryptocurrency works.

Edit: back to NFTs: If Ubisoft wants to do this they could start converting our games to that system. Yeah, I could trade some skins but why stop there? Let's trade the whole game like back in the days when games weren't bound on accounts but retail boxes where the biggest pain was some intrusive copy protection like TAGES and Securom - at least you were able to give that to someone else. No? Would that hurt your company? Aww....
Unfortunately true. Actually bank notes from since when they were first introduced to now (uk anyways) has the words, “I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of xyz”. This was then backed up by the Bank of England holding funds in terms of gold and other precious metals/commodities, but also revenue, e.g. economy. However this changed back in the 80s with a big government change in focus, from pushing for things like saving to spending, earning to credit, work to welfare. Now the whole system only functions due to momentum. Things like covid could theoretically bring the whole thing down. Although it’s unlikely as markets can rapidly change now due to other markets and economies buying/selling debt.
The real difference is current currency is a huge globe spanning ancient beast which is very robust even if it does not look like it, and has a lot of trust and backing. Bitcoin, nft’s etc. have none of this, some d-head in Silicon Valley thinks it’s a good idea and bam it’s everywhere, going up down, everyone scrambling to make or lose a fortune. It’s merely an extension of the gambling which is on the rise everywhere.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-12-16-french-trade-union-calls-ubisoft-nft-scheme-a-useless-costly-ecologically-mortifying-technology

The French trade union criticises Ubisoft Quartz as "a useless, costly, ecologically mortifying tech".

The Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot, however, continues to defend the strategy.
Post edited December 16, 2021 by Alexim
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nightcraw1er.488: Now the whole system only functions due to momentum. Things like covid mandates could theoretically bring the whole thing down.
Ftfy ;)