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TStael: your selective passive jihadi endorsement (agit-prop - but you quite deserve it) should receive unconditional condemnation.
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Shadowstalker16: 0_o
Corbyned, and it does not bother me.

You quote this one liner of an agit-prop which I state to be so, when my larger question to 011284mm is why he/she has such disparaging, unkind tone to a country that has suffered as US & UK, twice even.

Why does 011284mm not feel solidarity and respect to a country that does not want to fall to lowest expectations and to the cycle of hate, but to be democratic and successful?

You are aware that local Tunisian people formed human shields in attempt to protect their guests from this drugged-up jihadists?

I am in fact very disappointed that Tunisia receives so little solidarity here, even when we have, or at least have had, fellow gamers from North Africa. And we all hate terrorism that Tunisia has suffered.

Can you understand this point of view - or just roll your eyes again, maybe? ;-p
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TStael: SHAME on U!!!

And PS: I am a very secular Lutheran from Finland. In case you have doubts, even when your selective passive jihadi endorsement (agit-prop - but you quite deserve it) should receive unconditional condemnation.

I believe in right to life, and right to inalienable human dignity - as much applied to men and women.
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011284mm: Object to jihadist terrorism?
Well I do not endorse it, I do not agree with the killing of innocent civilians and animals, but I can see no reason to object to the deaths of politicians, military and terrorist/rebels. They all know what they are doing, and getting into.
So from some peoples perspective that is as good as supporting it.
Calling me names, and throwing objectionable titles at me does not bother me though.
Well, calling you names should not bother you - because I did not.

I asked you to be ashamed of not having had solidarity for Tunisia, sufferer of two brutal and quite murderous terrorist attacks .

That is all.

But from your reply I do see you do not object to some deaths ("politicans, military and terrosist/rebel") - so it is clear to me you do not believe there is inalienable right to life, or maybe even human dignity.

I will never agree with you, and hope you will never be that politician etc. Indeed I do not.

Ken Saro-Wiwa was hanged 20 years ago, and eight others - most unjustly, I would say. In yer world, it might have been fine - I wonder? (=where do you draw the line between politician or activist, or might the latter be indefinitely worse to you - and does it matter who lays the evidence, and does that evidence have to be objective in any way)
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WBGhiro: As seen in this thread many times, you seem to have had a loose grasps on your mental sanity for the last weeks but now you're really on the verge of becoming completely incoherent.
That so? I have significant doubt you have any sort of qualification to pass diagnosis on clinical insanity - not least because no-one with any sort of ethical calling would even try it here, out in the public.

But PM poppet - if you wish! ;-)

I just wonder: what sort of fora do you want to see here? Please understand: this is your personal responsibility. I am here because I remember a nice and diverse sort of place.

And why would you even go there - when we are talking about devastating human suffering in form of revolutions gone wrong and terrorist attacks; and the maybe unreasonable yet stubborn hope of breaking that cycle?

I want Tunisia to succeed, be prosperous and democratic. I love parliamentary democracy and gaming. If this mounts to insanity - hey-ho, so be it! :-D


Edit: delete duplication of word.
Post edited November 11, 2015 by TStael
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Shadowstalker16: 0_o
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TStael: Corbyned, and it does not bother me.

You quote this one liner of an agit-prop which I state to be so, when my larger question to 011284mm is why he/she has such disparaging, unkind tone to a country that has suffered as US & UK, twice even.

Why does 011284mm not feel solidarity and respect to a country that does not want to fall to lowest expectations and to the cycle of hate, but to be democratic and successful?

You are aware that local Tunisian people formed human shields in attempt to protect their guests from this drugged-up jihadists?

I am in fact very disappointed that Tunisia receives so little solidarity here, even when we have, or at least have had, fellow gamers from North Africa. And we all hate terrorism that Tunisia has suffered.

Can you understand this point of view - or just roll your eyes again, maybe? ;-p
I made the post because I felt you may not be able to ascertain someone's entire feelings from just one post. I expect no country wants to fall to the lowest expectations. People supporting Tunisia here isn't going to make it any better for them and even if it did; don't forget Tunisia didn't win the prize. An organized political outfit did. And most posts you say are badly toned towards And ofc how can people congratulate someone they don't know anything about? You may have looked into this but I haven't and many others also haven't.
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WBGhiro: As seen in this thread many times, you seem to have had a loose grasps on your mental sanity for the last weeks but now you're really on the verge of becoming completely incoherent.
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TStael: That so? I have significant doubt you have any sort of qualification to pass diagnosis on clinical insanity - not least because no-one with any sort of ethical calling would even try it here, out in the public.

But PM poppet - if you wish! ;-)
I'll call you a looney right here, I've no problems with it.


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TStael: Please understand: this is your personal responsibility.
Yeah, nah.


Do you even notice how hard you are pushing your moral superiority on others? To try to coerce them into singing praise for Tunisia on a gaming forum, so you don't feel so lonely in autofellating yourself over your fetish with a country. You make it sounds as if not chanting jubilations upon Tunisia is some sort of hate crime against humanity.

And please stop with this ye-olde-english bullshit, you're not even British.
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011284mm: Object to jihadist terrorism?
Well I do not endorse it, I do not agree with the killing of innocent civilians and animals, but I can see no reason to object to the deaths of politicians, military and terrorist/rebels. They all know what they are doing, and getting into.
So from some peoples perspective that is as good as supporting it.
Calling me names, and throwing objectionable titles at me does not bother me though.
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TStael: Well, calling you names should not bother you - because I did not.

I asked you to be ashamed of not having had solidarity for Tunisia, sufferer of two brutal and quite murderous terrorist attacks .

That is all.

But from your reply I do see you do not object to some deaths ("politicans, military and terrosist/rebel") - so it is clear to me you do not believe there is inalienable right to life, or maybe even human dignity.

I will never agree with you, and hope you will never be that politician etc. Indeed I do not.

Ken Saro-Wiwa was hanged 20 years ago, and eight others - most unjustly, I would say. In yer world, it might have been fine - I wonder? (=where do you draw the line between politician or activist, or might the latter be indefinitely worse to you - and does it matter who lays the evidence, and does that evidence have to be objective in any way)
Of course there is no inalienable right to life. It is nothing more then a chance when it begins, and nothing more then chance when it ends.
It just so happens that some people (politicians, military and terrorist/rebel) stack the rounds against them. They deliberately take jobs and positions which naturally put them at odds with others, and therefore mean their lives are put at a higher risk. If they wanted to have a long and peaceful life they would remain apart of the masses and do nothing with their lives. Yet they choose not to. They know the risks, they take the chance, they reap the rewards and consequences.
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TStael: Well, calling you names should not bother you - because I did not.

I asked you to be ashamed of not having had solidarity for Tunisia, sufferer of two brutal and quite murderous terrorist attacks .

That is all.

But from your reply I do see you do not object to some deaths ("politicans, military and terrosist/rebel") - so it is clear to me you do not believe there is inalienable right to life, or maybe even human dignity.

I will never agree with you, and hope you will never be that politician etc. Indeed I do not.

Ken Saro-Wiwa was hanged 20 years ago, and eight others - most unjustly, I would say. In yer world, it might have been fine - I wonder? (=where do you draw the line between politician or activist, or might the latter be indefinitely worse to you - and does it matter who lays the evidence, and does that evidence have to be objective in any way)
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011284mm: Of course there is no inalienable right to life. It is nothing more then a chance when it begins, and nothing more then chance when it ends.
It just so happens that some people (politicians, military and terrorist/rebel) stack the rounds against them. They deliberately take jobs and positions which naturally put them at odds with others, and therefore mean their lives are put at a higher risk. If they wanted to have a long and peaceful life they would remain apart of the masses and do nothing with their lives. Yet they choose not to. They know the risks, they take the chance, they reap the rewards and consequences.
And so on and so forth... You say some, you say none - but based on your rep, I was hoping for better.

Is (invigorous) nihilism your belief system then?


But let me just put forth this:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/11/12/tunisia-step-forward-womens-rights

Tunisian women with children are to be allowed to travel abroad without need for permission.

This is a progressive step fwd, and I do indeed believe it hails forth from the "go-forth-n-build" attitude that IMO fully merited Tunisian or "the quartet" Nobel prize.

I am happy and pleased to see it happen. I'm with Tunisia here. I wonder - who would not be, and why?