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You say you don't want to abuse the review system, but you do a review of a game just to offend me with childish, obsolete slurs, still in the mindset that calling someone a "fag" is a clever thing to say. My review didn't offend anyone. You're the one being offensive, rude, downright stupid.

I'm not a professional reviewer, I just gave my honest thoughts on the game. Plus, I do recommend it, a 3 out 5 stars review is POSITIVE. Not my fault if you lack basic math skills.

As for all the other stuff you threw at me, well... you have 17 games on GOG, I have more than 1000, so maybe I'm not the one who should move to "$team" along with the other "idiots".

You know nothing about my life or experience, to assume I don't know point & click adventures. In fact, I've been playing p&c for more than 25 years, now, it's one of my favorite genres, and the first game I remember playing on PC was a point & click adventure. That doesn't make me an entitled gatekeeper, though. I do value story over puzzles, I do like walking sims and narrative-driven games. There's room for everything, one thing isn't better than the other, and loving classic point & click games doesn't mean you have to hate walking sims. You can like both.

A lot of passion probably went into VirtuaVerse, I agree with that, but passion alone doesn't make a good game. Having this much pixel hunt in a 2020 game IS a sign of bad development skills, and starting the game up with such obtuse puzzles does show that these devs took no lessons from the classics that eased players into progressively harder puzzles in an organic way, instead of just dumping us in a world, hoping it would be interesting enough to overcome how bad it feels to be stuck on a multi-part puzzle right from the start.

It's really easy to call other people dumb just because they are being critical of something we love, but that's just a cheap offense that brings nothing to the table (plus, it's absolutely wrong). And, at the end of the day, it's a freaking video game. Unless you worked on it, or unless the devs are paying you, you seriously don't need to take this much offense by an amateur review just because you think the game is "WORTH 100 OUT OF FIVE STARS", or something. Just relax and take it easy. And no need to abuse a review system to call complete strangers on the internet "fags".



[this is a repost from the VirtuaVerse subforum, but since the person in question doesn't have chat enabled and I can't have a direct conversation with them, I'm trying to make my response to their offense visible anywhere I can]
I haven't played the game yet, and I might not agree with your review by then, however, I would still give you a huge thumb up anyway, no matter the outcome.

Why? Simply because you articulated a good review based on your own experience with the game. The other guy, on the other hand, was more interested in hitting you than actually review the game.

I guess stupidity really doesn't have a limit ;P

I'm sending the mods a heads up and let them decide.
Is the review section 4chan now?
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fr33kSh0w2012: Is the review section 4chan now?
It has been that way for a long time now and as you may have noticed already it's almost always by an non verified owner that are creating shitty reviews. I'm happy we have that verified tag.
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TBH, Groze should be banned from posting "reviews" altogether, since his "reviews" tell me less about the game in question and more about his penchant for bizarro tl;dr rants, his various psychoses and his abnormally terrible taste in games.
That other user's review should be removed, no doubt.

These threads would probably be better off locked as well.
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ChrisGamer300: it's almost always by an non verified owner that are creating shitty reviews
Funny you should mention that, since there is a review on the game page for Grimoire left by a non verified "owner" by the name of Groze that doesn't say anything about the game but is just a grotesque rant about the developer of said game.

Gee, considering how incredibly asshurt Groze gets at the "oldskool" RPG crowd, I'd wager he never even played the game.

Man, if only back then someone had written a 476 word count essay, pointing out to Groze the error of his ways! Because "reviewing" games you haven't played isn't cool!

And now he's scurrying around in this forum and begging for sympathy (and getting high rated for it, lol). Pathetic! What a hypocrite!
Post edited May 15, 2020 by fronzelneekburm
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fronzelneekburm: Funny you should mention that, since there is a review on the game page for Grimoire left by a non verified "owner" by the name of Groze that doesn't say anything about the game but is just a grotesque rant about the developer of said game.

Gee, considering how incredibly asshurt Groze gets at the "oldskool" RPG crowd, I'd wager he never even played the game.

Man, if only back then someone had written a 476 word count essay, pointing out to Groze the error of his ways! Because "reviewing" games you haven't played isn't cool!

And now he's scurrying around in this forum and begging for sympathy (and getting high rated for it, lol). Pathetic! What a hypocrite!
Dude, you're the one who became obsessed with me after the Grimoire review. I just never replied to you because, in all honesty, I don't think it was worth it. You made a lot of false assumptions, and, honestly, if anyone got asshurt at something, it would seem that was you, not me. If you want to discuss Grimoire, by all means, hit me up in chat and lay your Clive hagiography paranoia on me all you want. I never blocked anyone, people can confront me directly with whatever they want.

Also, I'm not begging for sympathy. I'm not begging for anything, really; I just felt like I had the right to reply to a person who directly offended me, and since they don't seem to be accepting DMs, posting on the forums seemed like the next best thing.

I also don't go obsessively stalking other people's forum history trying to find something they wrote years ago, taking it out of context and inferring ludicrous "truths" that serve my butthurt "oldskool" obsessed train of thought, like "someone does", fronzelneekburm.
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groze: bla bla
No U - The Post

Again, a whole lot of words to say nothing of value. Sad.

Also, it might have escaped you, but since you were the one shitposting a low effort 1-star "review" in a transparent effort to hurt a game's sales, the burden of proof is kind of on you. If you can give me any conclusive evidence that you ever played that game, I'll take what I said back and you get an apology on top of that (except for the bad taste part, I stand by that).
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groze: I also don't go obsessively stalking other people's forum history trying to find something they wrote years ago, taking it out of context and inferring ludicrous "truths" that serve my butthurt "oldskool" obsessed train of thought, like "someone does", fronzelneekburm.
In the interest of good faith, I will go ahead and try to disprove this accusation.

First off, sorry to disappoint you, but no, I don't obsessively stalk your forum history. After reading your "review", I was somewhat surprised that you would actually play a game whose creator you obviously have a problem with and whose target audience you denigrated on this very forum as "gatekeeping nerds". Another pet phrase of yours is "elitist" when referring to the RPG crowd. Now, take a guess what a google search for "elitist groze site:gog.com" will take you to. That's right, it's that forum post you wrote. And yes, the intent was to expose your bias against the genre and against the folks who enjoy these sort of games to anyone who would be mistaken enough to think that your "review" had even the slightest shred of legitimacy to it. It was a hitjob, pure and simple. And, funnily enough, it lent credence to Cleve's claims that Grimoire was the victim of review bombing. Good job, Groze!

Don't flatter yourself by thinking I'd go through pages upon pages of your forum posts, I'm not that much of a masochist. In fact, I barely ever read your posts. I just skim over them, shake my head in disbelief at whatever stupidity that catches my eye and then proceed with more enjoyable activities (like violently ripping out my fingernails with pliars).
Post edited May 15, 2020 by fronzelneekburm
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Oh hey, turns out I was right AGAIN.

Turns out muhfugguh never played the game he "reviewed".

Downboat away, folks! Downboat until your fingers rot off from exhaustion. Even in a million years I'd still be right and Groze would still be a buffoon who can't stand to have his "opinions" publically scrutinized.

Groze's gog review of Grimoire should be deleted. If the guy had a shred of integrity, he'd be the one requesting support to delete of his "review". Entire review sections of games like Not Tonight have been (rightfully) cleansed since the "reviews" had nothing to do with the game and were simply "This game should not be sold here because politix" rants. Why should this be an exception?
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In all honesty, it's pretty obvious which reviews come from a place of sincerity. Best you can do is ignore the others and don't get involved in tit-for-tat