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Hunter65536: Finally it worked, spotted a warning by doing what blakstar said and upon doing a google search I learnt that the BIOS version 1.27 is the one giving me trouble.

Updated my BIOS before trying again and this time it worked. (1.27 was the one I got and I upgraded it to 1.31) It booted the DVD without any problems in UEFI mode and dual booting works good as well.

Wireless driver is missing but everything else works just fine. Thanks blakstar for the helpful tip and thanks to adamhm for making this thread to help those less experienced with Linux like myself.

Edit: Updated stuff and installed wireless driver. Reboot and I can't get into Linux anymore. :(
What exactly is happening now? I'm sure it can be resolved somehow.
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blakstar: What exactly is happening now? I'm sure it can be resolved somehow.
It's going straight to windows boot now and when I go into boot device selection menu, I'm only seeing the windows bootloader partition. I was able to see hard disk immediately after install but not after reboot. Even now when I insert the DVD it boots into the live version fine but I can't find any option to boot into the one that's on hard disk. I even tried installing efibootmgr in live boot and set the order to hard disk first, and then cd, usb, etc. but still no difference.

Followed this tutorial during install.
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blakstar: What exactly is happening now? I'm sure it can be resolved somehow.
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Hunter65536: It's going straight to windows boot now and when I go into boot device selection menu, I'm only seeing the windows bootloader partition. I was able to see hard disk immediately after install but not after reboot. Even now when I insert the DVD it boots into the live version fine but I can't find any option to boot into the one that's on hard disk. I even tried installing efibootmgr in live boot and set the order to hard disk first, and then cd, usb, etc. but still no difference.

Followed this tutorial during install.
Looks like a fairly comprehensive tutorial -- are you sure you didn't accidentally miss a step somewhere?

At least we've got over the hurdle of your laptop having trouble with Linux -- now we just need to sort out UEFI!
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Hunter65536: It's going straight to windows boot now and when I go into boot device selection menu, I'm only seeing the windows bootloader partition. I was able to see hard disk immediately after install but not after reboot. Even now when I insert the DVD it boots into the live version fine but I can't find any option to boot into the one that's on hard disk. I even tried installing efibootmgr in live boot and set the order to hard disk first, and then cd, usb, etc. but still no difference.

Followed this tutorial during install.
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blakstar: Looks like a fairly comprehensive tutorial -- are you sure you didn't accidentally miss a step somewhere?

At least we've got over the hurdle of your laptop having trouble with Linux -- now we just need to sort out UEFI!
I'm pretty sure I followed it exactly, moreover if it was a bad install it wouldn't have opened in the first place right? Maybe the update messed up something. I will try installing again, this time I won't update the system.
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blakstar: Looks like a fairly comprehensive tutorial -- are you sure you didn't accidentally miss a step somewhere?

At least we've got over the hurdle of your laptop having trouble with Linux -- now we just need to sort out UEFI!
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Hunter65536: I'm pretty sure I followed it exactly, moreover if it was a bad install it wouldn't have opened in the first place right? Maybe the update messed up something. I will try installing again, this time I won't update the system.
Sorry I can't help you more with the UEFI side of things, but I still tend to resort to using legacy boot options myself. I'll probably get into UEFI installations at some point, but I've never had to install Linux alongside of Windows 8 or 10, as of yet anyway. Good luck with your install -- we all had to learn a few new things when starting off with Linux. :-)
Tried again and updating isn't causing this. Boot from hard disk option disappears after 1 reboot from boot device selection menu. (selecting boot from hard drive gives the grub menu from which I get into linux the first time) I'll give up for now.

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blakstar: Sorry I can't help you more with the UEFI side of things, but I still tend to resort to using legacy boot options myself. I'll probably get into UEFI installations at some point, but I've never had to install Linux alongside of Windows 8 or 10, as of yet anyway. Good luck with your install -- we all had to learn a few new things when starting off with Linux. :-)
Thanks for trying to help me, at least now I have a partition with linux installed. Just need to figure out a way to boot it. :)
Good thread adamhm.
Any thoughts on covering other linux distros?
Fedora and netrunner linux are worth looking at, and have no major problems running as virtual machines.

A good site for people interested in Linux distributions/distro update news is http://distrowatch.com/
The only real way to determine which "out-of-the-box" Linux experience you prefer is to try a few different Linux distros -- some are more user friendly, some are more technical, some give a full heavyweight desktop experience, some only give a minimal desktop.

All of them, however, can be configured to get the OS you really want -- it just depends on how much effort you want to put into it. :-)
Post edited May 10, 2016 by blakstar
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Lin545: Am I the only one with OSS emulation broken?

# apt-get install osspd
$ echo "asdasdasd" > /dev/dsp
bash: /dev/dsp: Input/output error

$ ls -alh /dev/dsp
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 14, 3 May 7 19:40 /dev/dsp
Solved! If you are on Debian Stable, upgrade Pulseaudio from backports. The "stable" version has an issue, it has monopoly on ESD emulation socket. Thus preventing oss proxy daemon to output the sound from oss legacy applications. Thus no sound in old proprietary linux applications.
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blakstar: All of them, however, can be configured to get the OS you really want -- it just depends on how much effort you want to put into it. :-)
^^^Truth to that.^^^
I was just curious if adamhm was playing with other linux distros.

Slackware should have a new point release this month after 2 years of silence. I'm going to dig deep into Slackware 14.2 once it comes out of release candidate status.
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morrowslant: Any thoughts on covering other linux distros?
Fedora and netrunner linux are worth looking at, and have no major problems running as virtual machines.
The thing is, to write such a complete guide (and easy to read too, adamhm did a wonderful work here!) you need to be familiar with the distribution you’re writing about.
So we would need a Fedora user to write a guide about Fedora, etc.
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morrowslant: Any thoughts on covering other linux distros?
Fedora and netrunner linux are worth looking at, and have no major problems running as virtual machines.
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vv221: The thing is, to write such a complete guide (and easy to read too, adamhm did a wonderful work here!) you need to be familiar with the distribution you’re writing about.
So we would need a Fedora user to write a guide about Fedora, etc.
Good point as well. Maybe I should start writing up a Fedora configuration guide.
The major differences between Linux Mint & Fedora boil down to user friendliness(Linux Mint wins), root id implementation, and embedded multimedia codecs support.

That last bit is going to change with Linux Mint 18, as per http://www.infoworld.com/article/3067350/linux/linux-mint-18-wont-include-multimedia-codecs.html The workaround for that looks pretty simple, either select an additional feature during OS install or download/run a standalone codec pack after OS install.
Post edited May 10, 2016 by morrowslant
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vv221: The thing is, to write such a complete guide (and easy to read too, adamhm did a wonderful work here!) you need to be familiar with the distribution you’re writing about.
So we would need a Fedora user to write a guide about Fedora, etc.
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morrowslant: Good point as well. Maybe I should start writing up a Fedora configuration guide.
The major differences between Linux Mint & Fedora boil down to user friendliness(Linux Mint wins), root id implementation, and embedded multimedia codecs support. That last bit is going to change with Linux Mint 18, as per http://www.infoworld.com/article/3067350/linux/linux-mint-18-wont-include-multimedia-codecs.html
When it really comes down to it, I tend to break down the various Linuxes by package type (deb, rpm, txz, etc.) as they're really all the same at heart -- as I mentioned above, it's more about how much work you really want to put into configuring your ideal OS.

Once you learn the ins and outs of a couple of different distros, they all start feeling fairly familiar -- I'm currently using Ubuntu, Debian, Slackware, Mint, and Antergos, although I have used OpenSuSE and Fedora in the past.

EDIT: I should add that I only found Antergos thanks to Judas, and although it's based on Arch, it's actually a very user-friendly distro. The only really major decision that needs to be made during installation is which desktop to use, as there is a choice of six: Gnome, KDE, MATE, Cinnamon, OpenBox and XFCE.
Post edited May 11, 2016 by blakstar
I used the update manager on Mint 17.2 and now nothing seems to work properly. That is on Virtualbox.

* Firefox doesnt show web pages normally, i had to install flash again.

* Libre Office went insane messing every possible formula in my files. They all give error now. I fixed some and others had backups but that was crazy.

* Time doesnt work normally. When I boot it first time it shows the right time. Then it delays showing wrong time. After an hour it shows 20 minutes late. Also, now I cant unlock the Date and time settings. It pops up a message which disappears after a few seconds.

* Constant freezes. Even while playing master of orion or reading gog forums it can freeze. Nothing works after that. I have to reset from the VB menu.
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morrowslant: Any thoughts on covering other linux distros?
Fedora and netrunner linux are worth looking at, and have no major problems running as virtual machines.
Not planning on covering any other distros - I focused on Mint because it's designed to be more user-friendly and it's extremely well supported due to its Ubuntu base (and because I use it myself). Also I'm not familiar enough with other distros anyway.

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Engerek01: ...
What Wine version are you using to run Mzmanager? I'd recommend installing PlayOnLinux (download it from there rather than the system repositories) and trying it with the latest version of Wine or Wine Staging. It might also be necessary to install some libraries to get it working.

For MzAssisstant, I have no experience with Java .jar files so it's probably best to contact the developer about getting that running.


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Engerek01: I used the update manager on Mint 17.2 and now nothing seems to work properly. That is on Virtualbox.
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Hmm :/ should report that to the Mint devs. I guess reinstalling is the best option then... I've always preferred to do a clean install anyway (I don't really mind doing reinstalls of Mint as it takes so little time to get everything set up).
Post edited May 11, 2016 by adamhm