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Any news about the Thalion rights?
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Piranjade: I also cannot believe it! :-D

I kept trying and trying but either got no answer at all or people didn't know anything about the rights.
And then I tried an angle that I was sure would be a dead end (that's why I hadn't tried it before) - and it worked out. That lead me to the previous to last rights holder who answered me very nicely and told me where the rights went and where they should still be.
Fingers crossed that we have now really reached the end of the chain and the rights owner is interested in using the rights.
Any news about the Thalion rights?
Post edited June 07, 2018 by TheThalionSource
Quick question, the old id games like Doom and Wolfenstein 3D are considered Abandonware? And is it legal to play them on Abandonware websites that distribute them for free?
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kizuxtheo: Quick question, the old id games like Doom and Wolfenstein 3D are considered Abandonware?
1) "Abandonware" is not a legal concept at all. It's just like the phrase "a good game": it has a meaning but how exactly it's defined depends on the person doing the definition.
2) Almost all personal definitions of abandonware exclude games that are still being sold. Doom and Wolfenstein 3D are being sold, including here on GOG.

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kizuxtheo: And is it legal to play them on Abandonware websites that distribute them for free?
No.
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kizuxtheo: Quick question, the old id games like Doom and Wolfenstein 3D are considered Abandonware?
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ZFR: 1) "Abandonware" is not a legal concept at all. It's just like the phrase "a good game": it has a meaning but how exactly it's defined depends on the person doing the definition.
2) Almost all personal definitions of abandonware exclude games that are still being sold. Doom and Wolfenstein 3D are being sold, including here on GOG.

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kizuxtheo: And is it legal to play them on Abandonware websites that distribute them for free?
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ZFR: No.
That's what I always say, don't know why there are people that think these games can be downloaded for free and consider them "Abandonware" when they are still legally distributed (maybe they were considered that at one point when DOSbox wasn't a thing and platforms like Steam weren't well known, but now you can buy them legally).
Post edited June 07, 2018 by kizuxtheo
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tfishell: I tried to contact http://www.tsf-org.org/?page=tsf-about-people in 2013 - both Michel and Benoit of C2V worked there - but I didn't get an answer then and now the email addresses don't work.

If you find an online way to contact him I could certainly try again, but you may just want to do it yourself. :) I don't have as much time as I used to put effort into this, especially since it's not like I was making a living off this.
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Novalon: Try this email: Xavier.kral(at)gmail.com

It's his new address. I think it should work.

Anyway, I was in contact with Xavier before and he told me once that Michel Delvel has copies of Valkyrie. I have not heard any updates from him, however. I am tempted to contact Michel myself but I do not know his current email address.
Hey thanks, I'll try to remember to give it a shot but I think you may want to be the one to try it. :) I heard back from Benoit Hap months ago, but he didn't seem to want to discuss the matter and I didn't want to push it. I heard back from Benoit at a "@tsf-org.org" email (I don't feel comfortable giving it out); you could try info@technologiesansfrontieres.org and ask for Benoit or Michel. (There was also a "web@technologiesansfrontieres.org" but that one didn't go through.)

http://www.tsf-org.org/

http://www.tsf-org.org/?page=tsf-contact-us&lang=en

http://www.tsf-org.org/?page=tsf-about-people&lang=en
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TheThalionSource: Any news about the Thalion rights?
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Piranjade: I also cannot believe it! :-D

I kept trying and trying but either got no answer at all or people didn't know anything about the rights.
And then I tried an angle that I was sure would be a dead end (that's why I hadn't tried it before) - and it worked out. That lead me to the previous to last rights holder who answered me very nicely and told me where the rights went and where they should still be.
Fingers crossed that we have now really reached the end of the chain and the rights owner is interested in using the rights.
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TheThalionSource: Any news about the Thalion rights?
Nothing I can talk about.