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Posted February 28, 2015
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Tarm: A bit related. There's some talk on steams discussion group Zombie Army Trilogy. It's a bundle with Nazi Zombie Army 1 - 2 ported to the new Sniper Elite 3 engine and the third in the series called just Zombie Army Trilogy.

From what I'm getting there, mind you it IS steam so take it with a bucket of salt, is that it wouldn't be really illegal to sell it uncensored in germany. For whatever this is worth and no I haven't read up on the threads here. just throwing this out here.
Interesting. I own the first two games on steam via trading, but they aren't in the german store. It looks like the third one will be uncensored. Makes me wonder since I am pretty sure the game will have Nazi symbols in it. Maybe they censore it without mentioning it. I doubt it will be uncensored. I'll try to keep an eye on it.

/EDIT: I googled a bit. The german version will still be censored. it just isn't mentioned on the store page.

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rtcvb32: Because the site wasn't in german so German customers aren't turned away but not really supported either (like importing electronics from overseas that aren't intended for your power, yeah you can do it... but you're SOL if something goes wrong).

Or maybe it's now because of... ummm.... global warming?
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EBToriginal: I feel I was a bit vague when I stated the German language site was proof that they did significant enough buisness in Germany and to Germans to have to follow that law. We don't know the order of these ideas. It's completely possible that the German site has been on the warming plate and was simply held up until they got some kind of equivalent to a C&D from Germany. That said the lack of a German web presence wasn't going to be a magic bullet forever either.
I guess it was just a matter of time. As you said the lack of a german version is not a 100% protection against a possible law suit.
Post edited February 28, 2015 by The_Blog
Posted February 28, 2015
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Tarm: A bit related. There's some talk on steams discussion group Zombie Army Trilogy. It's a bundle with Nazi Zombie Army 1 - 2 ported to the new Sniper Elite 3 engine and the third in the series called just Zombie Army Trilogy.

From what I'm getting there, mind you it IS steam so take it with a bucket of salt, is that it wouldn't be really illegal to sell it uncensored in germany. For whatever this is worth and no I haven't read up on the threads here. just throwing this out here.
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The_Blog: Interesting. I own the first two games on steam via trading, but they aren't in the german store. It looks like the third one will be uncensored. Makes me wonder since I am pretty sure the game will have Nazi symbols in it. Maybe they censore it without mentioning it. I doubt it will be uncensored. I'll try to keep an eye on it.
I haven't really read up on the latest about this, I mainly do general threads there because I find the first two amazingly fun but I think the situation is that they planned to release it censored but later pulled it from german customers to buy altogether. Maybe the publisher is thinking it over?

Edit: Changed uncensored to censored. Bad typo there...
Post edited February 28, 2015 by Tarm
Posted February 28, 2015
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The_Blog: Interesting. I own the first two games on steam via trading, but they aren't in the german store. It looks like the third one will be uncensored. Makes me wonder since I am pretty sure the game will have Nazi symbols in it. Maybe they censore it without mentioning it. I doubt it will be uncensored. I'll try to keep an eye on it.
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Tarm: I haven't really read up on the latest about this, I mainly do general threads there because I find the first two amazingly fun but I think the situation is that they planned to release it censored but later pulled it from german customers to buy altogether. Maybe the publisher is thinking it over?

Edit: Changed uncensored to censored. Bad typo there...
Seems the collection will be censored sadly. But atleast buyable which is a step in the right direction. I have both as the uncut version and yes I find them pretty fun too :)
Post edited February 28, 2015 by The_Blog
Posted February 28, 2015
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Tarm: I haven't really read up on the latest about this, I mainly do general threads there because I find the first two amazingly fun but I think the situation is that they planned to release it censored but later pulled it from german customers to buy altogether. Maybe the publisher is thinking it over?

Edit: Changed uncensored to censored. Bad typo there...
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The_Blog: I edited the post above. Seems the collection will be censored sadly. But atleast buyable which is a step in the right direction. I have both as the uncut version and yes I find them pretty fun too :)
Yeah it's much better to have them censored than not at all for germans. Can't wait for it to be released so I can have me some more classic pulp zombie splatter. :D
Posted February 28, 2015
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Tarm: Yeah it's much better to have them censored than not at all for germans.
I'm not so sure. I think they overdid it.
Commandos BEL: censored
Posted February 28, 2015
GOG.com servers are not situated in Germany. Every media that is banned in Germany can not be purchased in Germany, BUT it is lawful to purchase those media for one's private use from outside the country i.e.online services/servers. So what you are doing, GOG, is to break a butterfly on a wheel. It was really unnecessary, and it makes me sad. I will have to leave this site, since I can't get what everyone else is able to get on here anymore. It was good while it lasted, but I think everyone sells out at some point.
Posted February 28, 2015
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Tarm: Yeah it's much better to have them censored than not at all for germans.
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tinyE: I'm not so sure. I think they overdid it.
Commandos BEL: censored
Ha ha that actually made me want to play some old Commodore 64 games. :)
Start selling emulated Commodore 64 games GOG! ;)
Posted February 28, 2015
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Tarm: Yeah it's much better to have them censored than not at all for germans.
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tinyE: I'm not so sure. I think they overdid it.
Commandos BEL: censored
Fun Fact: Comando for NES was actually never released in germany ^^
They even made an alternate version called Space Invasio where the enemies were replaced by aliens and the boxart was changed but it was indexed anyway.
Post edited February 28, 2015 by The_Blog
Posted February 28, 2015
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tinyE: I'm not so sure. I think they overdid it.
Commandos BEL: censored
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The_Blog: Fun Fact: Comando for NES was actually never released in germany ^^
They even made an alternate version called Space Invasio where the enemies were replaced by aliens and the boxart was changed but it was indexed anyway.
Really? It's been a few years but I don't remember that game having an ounce of Nazi imagery in it. Come to think of it there was no American imagery either; no flags, no symbols, no nothing.
Posted February 28, 2015
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The_Blog: Fun Fact: Comando for NES was actually never released in germany ^^
They even made an alternate version called Space Invasio where the enemies were replaced by aliens and the boxart was changed but it was indexed anyway.
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tinyE: Really? It's been a few years but I don't remember that game having an ounce of Nazi imagery in it. Come to think of it there was no American imagery either; no flags, no symbols, no nothing.
It wasn't because of any nazi images, but rather violence. This may sound ridicoulus now, but years ago the indexing of games because of violence was way more common in germany. Today it isn't much of a problem since games like God of War 3 can be bought uncut here. In the past games got cesnored or indexed basicly when you were able to shoot someone or apply violence in any way to someone human. Most famous example is half life 1. The german version had no soldiers but robot's. ^^ The aliens and zombies were still in there, but they replaced all soldiers with robots and also replaced the voice files to sound more robot like. You were also not able to kill scientists. There was no gore and when a scientist died he just sad down and shook his head. :P From todays perspective the changes are actually pretty funny. Most people ordered the uncut version from other countries anyway ^^

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Post edited February 28, 2015 by The_Blog
Posted February 28, 2015
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tinyE: Really? It's been a few years but I don't remember that game having an ounce of Nazi imagery in it. Come to think of it there was no American imagery either; no flags, no symbols, no nothing.
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The_Blog: It wasn't because of any nazi images, but rather violence. This may sound ridicoulus now, but years ago the indexing of games because of violence was way more common in germany. Today it isn't much of a problem since games like God of War 3 can be bought uncut here. In the past games got cesnored or indexed basicly when you were able to shoot someone or apply violence in any way to someone human. Most famous example is half life 1. The german version had no soldiers but robot's. ^^ The aliens and zombies were still in there, but they replaced all soldiers with robots and also replaced the voice files to sound more robot like. You were also not able to kill scientists. There was no gore and when a scientist died he just sad down and shook his head. :P
From a todays perspective the changes are actually pretty funny.

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That actually doesn't surprise me. I was a kid when the Atari 2600 hit and Space Invaders became a phenom, and back then the world was rife with people saying all the shit about Space Invaders that they say about modern shooters today. Whenever a kid would snap someone would blame it on violent video games.....like Space Invaders.

Funny thing is no one ever got on Pitfall despite the huge rise in number of kids who got eaten trying to jump across ponds by hopping on the heads of alligators.
Posted February 28, 2015
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The_Blog: It wasn't because of any nazi images, but rather violence. This may sound ridicoulus now, but years ago the indexing of games because of violence was way more common in germany. Today it isn't much of a problem since games like God of War 3 can be bought uncut here. In the past games got cesnored or indexed basicly when you were able to shoot someone or apply violence in any way to someone human. Most famous example is half life 1. The german version had no soldiers but robot's. ^^ The aliens and zombies were still in there, but they replaced all soldiers with robots and also replaced the voice files to sound more robot like. You were also not able to kill scientists. There was no gore and when a scientist died he just sad down and shook his head. :P
From a todays perspective the changes are actually pretty funny.

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tinyE: That actually doesn't surprise me. I was a kid when the Atari 2600 hit and Space Invaders became a phenom, and back then the world was rife with people saying all the shit about Space Invaders that they say about modern shooters today. Whenever a kid would snap someone would blame it on violent video games.....like Space Invaders.

Funny thing is no one ever got on Pitfall despite the huge rise in number of kids who got eaten trying to jump across ponds by hopping on the heads of alligators.
The comment about pitfall made me giggle :P
They said it about books and films when they became popular too and basicly any form of media. In 20 years it will be something different. The society seems to be wary to anything they don't really understand or that is new.
Posted February 28, 2015
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The_Blog: Video for the cut Version
Haha, that's pure comedy gold! :D
Posted February 28, 2015
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The_Blog: Video for the cut Version
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Leroux: Haha, that's pure comedy gold! :D
Right? ^^
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