Posted September 06, 2017

LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
Registered: Dec 2013
From Russian Federation

macuahuitlgog
Blood is the #1 FPS.
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States

drealmer7
finding balance
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States

Stevedog13
Bald &Overweight
Registered: Feb 2011
From United States
Posted September 07, 2017

When TNG came along they lost a lot of these factors. They made Picard the conscience of the ship while Riker was the impulsive one and Data was clearly their attempt at Spock part 2. They also brought in more characters and archetypes such as the warrior Worf. However these characters were much more fleshed out, which allowed for deeper character development but lost some of the feeling from TOS. Also TNG had a lot more involvement with Starfleet than TOS. When Kirk was out exploring strange new worlds and seeking out new life and new civilizations he was, for all intents and purposes, Starfleet. Whatever he did or said would be the basis for how newly discovered worlds would see Starfleet. In a crisis situation he needed to make a decision and be entirely responsible for the results. He didn't have the luxury of opening a subspace channel to Starfleet to ask for advice. I imagine it would have been very similar to someone like Sir Walter Raleigh representing the entirety of Britain while searhing out El Dorado, no calling the Queen to find out how she would want a situation handled. This changed in TNG where Picard was seen as a competent captain because there is only a 17% chance that he would ever need to consult Starfleet before making a decision.
I was hopeful that Voyager, with the setup of having the ship completely cutoff from the rest of Starfleet, would get back to the more classic style of Star Trek exploration. Unfortunately the writers chose not to create real situations where problems would arise naturally, instead focusing on trying to sound more sci-fi like and throwing out as much useless jargon as they could. The conflict of any given episode was usually something along the lines of "oh no, our sensors couldn't detect the sub-delta radiation coming off the nearby anti-neutrino field and now our dilithium core is de-atomizing at the atomic level!" Then of course the only way to fix this nonsensical technobabel is with equally absurd sci-fi sounding word salad. "If we can realign the main deflector to emit an inverse theta field at the exact moment the quasars within the anti-neutrino field are in flux it might be enough to create a sub temporal hole where our dilithium can re-ionize itself and hopefully give us enough power to escape." I don't know if this was simply due to lazy fanboy nerdgasms or arrogant persiflage by the creators, but it made the show entirely unwatchable for me.

Crosmando
chrono commando
Registered: Jan 2012
From Australia
Posted October 15, 2017
Hey, can someone tell me what ST series to watch after TNG (to be in the right order)?

BenKii
Captain
Registered: Mar 2010
From United States
Posted October 15, 2017
DS9 is the next series that was made. After DS9's first season, Voyager started. You should be able to watch the 2 shows independently since they take place on opposite sides of the galaxy. No crossover episodes were ever made to my knowledge.

Crosmando
chrono commando
Registered: Jan 2012
From Australia

ConsulCaesar
Crossing the Rubicon
Registered: Jan 2017
From Spain
Posted October 15, 2017
Technically, the Deep Space 9 station appears briefly during the Voyager pilot, and in a later Voyager season someone mentions in passing something that is happening in DS9, but nothing that requires previous knowledge of the other show.
There were a couple of crossovers between TNG and DS9 but all of them ended conclusively in their respective shows.
There were a couple of crossovers between TNG and DS9 but all of them ended conclusively in their respective shows.