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snowkatt: and roddenberry was no saint
he was a revisionist gloryhound
most of what made star trek great was actually created by gene L coon
by the time coon died of lung cancer roddenberry realised that coon's contributions were extremely popular and he tried to claim them as his own
and he nearly succeeded
thankfully shatner justman and others would have none of that

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Gene_L._Coon

roddenberry had the idea for star trek and put it in motion but other people like gene l coon robert justman dc fontana matt jeffries and countless others were the ones that made star trek great
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Wolfehunter: Thank you for this. I didn't know.
nor did i untill i read star trek memories
roddenberry is like bob kane the man with the idea but others made that idea actually viable
and after that happened kane\roddenberry tried to take all the credit
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Wolfehunter: Thank you for this. I didn't know.
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snowkatt: nor did i untill i read star trek memories
roddenberry is like bob kane the man with the idea but others made that idea actually viable
and after that happened kane\roddenberry tried to take all the credit
/TRUTH'D

Gene was awesome, but there are too many people who view him as a saint with all these great ideas.
Nope. He did have SOME good ideas, but MANY terrible ones.

DS9 and TNG are tied for my favorite Treks. DS9 has the edge in pure story telling though, and Gene definitely had NO input into that. No offense of course. He was.. well.. dead before the show aired and dying even when TNG was starting up.
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itchy01ca01: Welp, that ship looks exactly like a FASA design. I know this is test footage but still... WOW.
I am definitely not optimistic at all. Im a die-hard Trek fan and I love every one of the series (we don't talk about Enterprise or the last few movies). Let's see how this plays out and how many fans become shills.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Nah it looks like the phase 2/ Motion Picture concept art.
True.
Also looks like the shuttle carrier though.
But yea, looks MORE like phase 2.
Post edited July 27, 2016 by itchy01ca01
I just hope it's not like that Ameri-trash I'm gonna buy my own enterprise with blackjack and hookers 'Enterprise'.
About the only thing it got right was it's recognition of the need to have at least one early middle aged female crew member with big tits to keep their target group of slavering barely pubescent morons from jumping ship to something more interesting... like the news.